You’re assume the penalty system will actually work. What’s just as likely to happen will be that
A. Genji 1 trick named genji will just wait out the extra time which wont reduce the q.
B. The player will just quit because of increased wait times without a pass
C. They join qpc which does not help q times.
In the words of Torblerone, You’re making a chicken out of a feather.
If it sucks, then we rant about it on forums and it gets removed, like map/hero pools. But you miss all the shots you don’t take, and a heck of a lot of us want to take a shot at reducing queue times.
That does, because it pulls people dps out of the dps comp queue.
It does not because the bottleneck is not dps but tank
It does BECAUSE the bottleneck is tank.
IF the DPS are all having to wait for a tank player to free up, and are all standing in a line.
LESS DPS means the line is shorter.
So each DPS has to wait less time, from standing at the end of the line, to get to the front.
Don’t worry. The dps woudl rather wait than queue for another role as it has been already shown so almost nobody will be using the system.
Its 3 lines not 2. Dps line being shorter doesnt make the tank line longer or the support line shorter. If you have to wait 10 minutes to find a tank with 100 ppl in a line for dps you still jave to wait that same 10 minutes with 50 or 25 or 1. Thst what a bottleneck means
True, but, like, priqueue isn’t trying to do that.
It is trying to make the DPS line shorter, because it is by far the longest.
DPS leaving for other queues helps that.
As it is, PriQueue could also shorten Tank and Support queues, since, there will be more viable matches for the matchmaker to use.
Itd truing to force dps into the tank q with reduce q times for all.
Ill get back to this later when im not st work
Ok.
I mean, YES, getting DPS into tank weirdly DOES reduce tank queue times. BECAUSE more matches can happen.
DPS leaving for other queues won’t do that, but it WILL reduce the DPS queue time and not impact the others, so, on average the queue times go down overall, because average…
They dont have to q for Tank, if the system works it gonna decrease Dps times anyway, so I dont think Dps players will play a 20min Tank game to save a few min on the dps q
Depends on how much of a boost the pri queue boost is.
If it is a big one, then, yeah, they will get longer times if they don’t make the shift, but the ones who do, will get CRAZY fast queue times (comparatively)
What we don’t know is how much of a weighting the pri in priqueue is.
What I mean: Even if you save 80% of your q, its still like 5-8 min less and I am not sure if people want to play 1 role for 20min for that.
Even if they start playing Tank a lot, even if they only throw on Tank, their SR will decrease with time if they dont play good
Quick
100 ppl line up for a 3090 and im 50th
51-100 get hit by a meteor and die
Im still 50th
pq holder says i forgot to write my name on list for 3090 and therefore im now 51st.
Q times havent changed my spot has tho.
You rejoin the line after your next match… the line is ONLY 50 line, because the 50 who are dead are still dead.
NOW your game is faster, and every queue after that. You are not joining IN THE MIDDLE of the queue, you join at the back…
(yeah, I know it isn’t QUITE like that, since I wrote matchmakers as a job, so, there isn’t REALLY a queue, there is a pity timer for weighting the cost function, but… as a simplification)
Complaining about possible future effects without adding solutions is worth nothing. Also what is your alternative? To make Blizzard create “Bot tanks” to solve queue times?
Getting more players to play tank benefits queue times, it also gets people to play tank and therefore learn a new role. After that, more tanks will be “naturally” on the queue, plus the new ones on the queue. This is an ongoing effect and yes, its not going to be sunshine and rainbows but its going to be far from doom and gloom ok?
Like DrHouse said:
“If you do it , its bad. If you dont, its Worse”.
Just chill and stop complaining before it is on place and we see its effects.
That doesn’t reduce the average queue time for everyone only the maximum time you’d have to wait as a dps. Which you end up losing regardless the moment someone uses their Priority pass.
You’re not addressing the actual issue, you’re just sacrificing a portion of the playerbase and saying “I’m fine with this”. Which is okay too, since I was never a fan of RQ to begin with and the more people mass exodus from the system the quicker we can go back to the old one.
When Surefour said this crap to Seagull it irked the living fk out of me. Idk if you’re parroting him or you both consume the same sources but you need to put a little bit more critical thought into the things that you say.
The person that discovered cancer isn’t the one that cured it. We don’t have a cure or adequate treatment for most but the fact that we can even begin to think about solutions is because we first acknowledged it was an issue.
If I stabbed you in the head and my first “solution” was to pull out the knife and put a bandaid over it despite not having any background in medicine or neurological issues then you’d probably be dead within the hour or suffering long term. You go to the experts but first you have to acknowledge the knife in your brain IS AN ISSUE.
The point being is for them to GET priority, they would have had to tank…
and while they are using priority, other people who would normally DPS are ALSO now tanking.
So everything speeds up, since you have more people dealing with the bottleneck.
Right, and THAT I agree with. A solution isn’t always better than “no solution” - the term, “the cure was worse than the disease” is very much a thing.
BUT in this case, it will do what it says on the box, if they push the change priority makes enough.
its funny i play dps like 70% of my time
but when role Q came i think i will bad as tank
but it turns out my tank and my support SR is higher than my dps
my dps is stuck on 2500-2800
i got placed 2400 on tank and support, but climb alot and finally:
my support hover arround between 2700-2900
my tank hover arround between 2900
i win more of my tanks / support games compared to my dps
idk if thats because tanks and support are OP, or im just gifted playing them even t hough i rarely play them
I see what they’re going for with priority pass, but as a Tank/Support, I’m slightly unhappy with this.
My second tank/support more than likely won’t be performing their best. They’ll be playing the role to get into DPS games faster so they can bastion 1 trick and make little kids rage.
Therefore, I’d probably be carrying on heals for support and my team is going to get unhappy.