Please please please plz —please— do something about smurfs

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If you want satisfaction, see what those smurfs are doing. You don’t get better by playing against players who aren’t better than you. You’ll stagnate and eventually start playing worse.

Smurfs make mistakes. They don’t even care about their rank, so they’re not going to be putting in full effort. If you’re getting punished by the smurfs, don’t keep doing the same thing again and again.

I don’t understand how avoiding people who aren’t helping you to win is making the game worse. It doesn’t make sense. Are you telling people outright that they’re getting avoided? What’s the point in that? There’s no reason at all to tell people that you’re going to avoid them, so there’s no way it could make the game worse. The matchmaker could just as put you on the other ream on its own anyway.

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I do have to say when a team hard spawncamps and succeeds, it’s unlikely that they belong in gold. There are aggressively successful tactics that tell you you’re dealing with smurfs. People in gold are much more passive players and when they make risky plays they don’t pay off so spectacularly as when a smurf does them.

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If your team is really that bad, throw in the towel and go next. You can’t win every game. Best to not let it bother you. If you really don’t belong in gold you’ll climb out eventually. But the notion of falling all the way from diamond to bronze while blaming smurfs the whole way down is wild.

Playing in a rank -500SR from your skill level makes you a smurf in a sense too. Not literally, but you’re playing in a rank where you don’t remotely belong - just like the smurfs. If you’re still struggling, it’s because you don’t belong at that rank. And you’re not going to win every game no matter what. But if you can’t even maintain a 51% winrate, (the minimum to climb) that’s a you problem.

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I think you don’t understand how playing at ranks lower than you’re used to works. Between the games where your team can’t deal with an enemy smurf, and the games where even if there is no smurf, your healers keep behind the choke while your tanks push in without any heals, well you can easily drop behind 50%.

The speed of the game is entirely different. It’s an entirely different game. You push in hard, like you learned at higher elos because people’s brains move fast. You get two kills, perfect opening. You’re in line of sight of choke so you’re sure heals are incoming. But they never arrive. You lose mech and die, and so does the rest of your team, because there is a lag on the W keys of everyone in gold. The only way to climb out is to learn to wait twelve years at choke. Which will get you destroyed as soon as you climb out as it’s a thrower tactic. So yoyoing between two ranks that are really two entirely different games is possible because let’s face it, you’re gonna pick up bad habits to get out of gold, and then take a while to get rid of them once out.

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Having a oneside stomp isn’t learning , I go comp to play against people who are in same rank as mine , not people who are already 2 ranks higher. It’s like that how you learn.

dude today I had a match vs 5 people around 3500-3700, I changed my approach for a whole round and of course I didn’t accomplished nothing, left after first round. (was qp of course) That will be the same in comp, no matter how much you change approach, you don’t have room to try too much since in gold (my rank) you don’t even know what approach you can try.

as said I want to have gold vs golds (real golds) not being heavy carried because I abused a system feature that is supposed to make you avoid toxic people.

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So in other words, you’re not playing with your team and throwing the game. Why are the smurfs able to carry the games at these low ranks? The game is entirely different at the lower ranks, yet only the smurfs are able to win in low ranks? It doesn’t make sense.

The smurfs are getting those same players that don’t know how to regroup.

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exactly! once you pay for the game once, if you wanna pay for it again go right ahead, but know your part of the problem. on xbox with the infa account making potential its MUCH worse there. but ugh.

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I’m not a smurf, I dropped from diamond. Smurfs tend to be from much higher ranks. When was the last time you played in gold by the way? I think you need to watch some videos on how hard it is to play in for people from higher ranks.

There really is not much more you can do on dva if you kill two people and then don’t get healed to keep going because no one presses W.

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I have alts, I play in gold plenty. It’s not difficult.

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Oh so you’re a smurf. What rank are you in? And are you a smurf DPS (easy, borderline cheating) or a smurf tank (truly must hate yourself you masochist)?

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You asked me if I played in gold recently. Now you want to call me a smurf? Then you look to attack me when you’re the one who doesn’t have the mental fortitude to climb? So anyway - Lost 5 games this morning 0% winrate for the week - on my main, I’ve dropped down to about 3,000SR (you can check my profile, it’s not private). Although, I haven’t played at all in the past month, or so.

Guess who’s fault it is. Mine. If I played better I would have won. Big deal.

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you still have not shown me how your experience is the same as mine? if you smurf in gold on DPS it’s basically cheating, a completely free ride. but gold on tank is hell. you have neither heals nor DPS and your other tank will always want to go the hardest route only (middle, right through as much spam as possible).

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Literally just stated my profile is open and I only play D.Va. I see why you can’t climb.

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when did you drop to gold? how long did it take you to get out? i’ve only been hovering between 2450 and 2550 for a week, so maybe pump the breaks on insulting me?

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I didn’t care about comp when the game first came out. I didn’t actually start playing it until season 3, where I placed silver. Then, I didn’t care to rank up past gold, because it was good enough. And the platinum icon just looks like a larger silver icon, so I wasn’t interested in having it.

Until someone I know bought a new account, and placed platinum and claimed it was where she belonged. I wasn’t gonna have a hard stuck bronze tell me she was suddenly better than me, so I got home from work, spent 6 hours and climbed out of gold that very same day. Didn’t want to hear about how elo-hell was a thing either, so I immediately left gold after that.

A similar thing happened with platinum. I didn’t really care to get to diamond. Today, I don’t care to get to masters. I haven’t dropped to gold in years. I think the last time I fell to gold, I went all the way down to 2100. But, a few days later, I went on like a 15-game win-streak… or something like that.

At this rate, I’ll fall back to plat but I really don’t care about this game all that much anymore.

There’s no meaningful difference from one season to another. Season 29 is exactly the same as season 31. You don’t even get exclusive skins or anything special for reaching different ranks, unless it’s t500. But I’m never going to get there nor do I care to. Just a bunch of tacky golden guns. I have them all at this point, but don’t like how any of them look.

Just pick a number and go for it. 3100 was good enough for me. It’s not worth the effort to go higher. I just don’t care all that much.

And getting new accounts to bronze or silver is immensely boring. Having to lose so much on purpose when you’ll just be out again after a few games is pointless. It takes hours and hours of doing that and it’s just not worth it for me.

So my new accounts place gold, and they still end up in plat or diamond. They’re easy ranks. If you lose in anything gold, or below, its your fault, because there’s no excuse (You should be getting 2-3 solo kills every fight, or else you don’t deserve to be higher). One of my accounts had an 8.1 KDR. But, the higher up you go, the lower the numbers get, because you’e being matched with better players. It’s probably down to 4.0 today.

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Ok ok. But I agree with you. Something needs to be done with smurfs

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It would appear you are looking at this only from “I’m a smurf and let me justify why playing in lower ranks and disrupting people is justified” point of view.

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They made their choice in favour of the players who never stop playing the game and have near-professional knowledge of every aspect of the game. The rest of us are largely human AI bots they mow down effortlessly for lootboxes and bigger, shinier numbers of all kinds.

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If you’re not a murf, your team is disadvantaged, because there are five slots for smurfs on your team and six on the other team.

Statistician, heal thyself.

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Yet every other non smurf deals with the same odds and is able to climb. Do you claim that smurfs cause people to be hardstuck in the long-run? If so wouldn’t the people who claim to deserve a higher rank classify as smurfs themselves?

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