Please. Nerf Storm Arrow

Widowmaker is much more busted and in need of nerfs than Hanzo. Sorry, you’ve missed the mark with your post.
Hanzo can never utterly dominate and control the game. If you see him aiming, you can side step headshots most of the time. Widow has only herself to blame.

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You werent around before the Hanzo rework im guessing. Hanzo was played solidly by people who knew how to use projectile, and he didnt have SA. There is projectile and hitscan specialists. You play hanzo if youre good with projectiles vs hitscan, he cannot have all at once. Projectile has a bigger hitbox for a reason. That “shield burst” you mention is also a tank killing burst.

Hanzo recently got nerfed, a lot
Widow never got a decent nerf in years

You’re right, widow just has literally the best gun in the game. Hitscan unlimited range damage capable of instantly killing all squishies, with a cooldown of less than a second.

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So do projectiles

Are you talking about your beloved Hanzo?

Youre right about the scope though, kudos

I was playing Hanzo at that time.

No matter how good you are, hitting with projectile means you need luck so that your estimation of the enemies movement is right.

This is something you never need as hitscan player.

The slightly bigger hitbox when hit by arrows is just a small compensate for it.

Anyhow, i do not understand what you wanna tell me and why you cited my post. Do you agree, disagree or did you only wanted to say something?

Btw. i kill Tanks faster as Widdow than with any other Hero. Tripple damage on headshots for the win!

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You asked me a question, and now youre questioning why i responded? Clearly disagree; the increased projectile speed mitigated the luck factor ALOT. Geoff even admitted he regrets it. You need aim as hitscan , timing as projectile. OWL has these two specialists for a reason

Unlimited range with precision***

Big difference :grinning:

Widow has better mobility
A better ult,
Higher fire rate
Hitscan weapon
More damage per shot
Flanker alarm

That’s more than enough on a sniper

Correct, I dont need to aim past you and get random headshot. One requires more skill :+1:t3:

Yeah, literally clicking heads requires more skill than predicting movement with a projectile. Makes sense man

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Better mobility - cant wallclimb
No leap on 5 second cooldown
Better ult? Sonic is on cooldown, didja forget? More damage = longer charge as well.

Im not saying I love widow, but this isnt true

One isnt based on luck. Please keep trying

Better mobility - up to 30 meters in any direction during which you can fire, vs a slow wallclimb leaving you unable to look around or defend yourself, and a horizontal hop.

Sonic isn’t mapwide, or as long.

More damage = longer charge but also better ability to follow up due to the hitscan nature of the weapon. Hanzo shots on low charge basically drop out of the bow.

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Everything’s based on luck, that’s life. Smh

Hence why I said “Torb only” account.

LUL

Doesnt matter; its still a mini version of hers ON cooldown. He has a combo-able real ult

Widow who missed the head is just as hard to follow up on because has to charge. Not a good argument

It is slow, not sure what the lul is for

It does matter, you’re comparing a literally mapwide ult to the size of a room.

Widow who misses can quickly get another shot in. If the target was unaware until the first shot, widow has a better chance of getting them before they find cover. She also has better follow-up, especially at range. She also works considerably better in a doom-dependent meta, out of the way and able to match his high speed maneuvers with hitscan shots

Lol, that was the answer to “why should you pick Hanzo over Widdow if you remove Storm Arrows?” ?

At the time beofre the rework Hanzo hat Scatter Arrow, which made up for Storm arrows. The increase from 85 to 100 projectile. Yes, it made it a bit more reliable which was very very needed considering his bad success at that time.

You do not need more timing as projectile than as hitscan. You need for both aim and timing. But as projectile you need estimation of the targets movement. This can never ever be reliable as you cannot know what your target does.

Hence, you need luck or stay at short range.

Again, why should you pick a gimped version of a slow shooter (Hanzo) over Widdow if you do not have other things to make up for?

Every DPS player i saw, know and watched in OWL and Youtube that playes Widdow and Hanzo has much higher hit and crit rates on widdow than on Hanzo.
So why pick Hanzo if you remove Storm Arrows.

Give an answer instead of talking around or shut up. Thanks.

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You speak like a child, by pointing out the obvious. It seems you relied on Hanzos scatter and SA more than the projectile. So no proper answer deserved to a crutch player whom a scope wont benefit