I don’t think there is a hero more controversial than Widowmaker. There are those that can instantly shut down entire teams meanwhile others can barely get a body shot. Please note I am not advocating for buffs or nerfs, I am simply pleading for a more fun gameplay mechanic concerning her.
But I think everyone can agree that compared to other heroes widow is just not as fun to play as others unless you count the satisfaction of getting constant headshots.
Hanzo has some medium range fun abilities like rapid fire, scaling walls and jumps to engage or disengage.
Widow has a grapple hook with a very long cooldown and a poison trap that’s an annoyance at best. No I am not a plat player and honestly I could careless about league players.
I like the sniper gameplay but I would love to see some fun Widowmaker abilities like grap and stick unto walls or getting “rapid charged” shots that weaken after each shot or poison ammo… you know… FUN tools. ANYTHING.
Honestly anything that stops the boring gameplay of standing still in aim mode hoping for a good shot to present itself.
Lucio gets boops, tracer gets rewind plays, Rein gets charges, sombra gets invisible sprint and recall. Now we have a hamster swinging around like a wrecking ball and smashing down.
That’s fun. And I would love to see Widow getting some fun tools too.
Symmetra has gone through several re-works. Maybe its time Widowmaker gets a rework too.
Widowmaker is the most fun character in the game now that Sombra is dead. If you do not like her, that is cool. I hate Zarya, but I am not asking for “fun buffs” just because I am not into her kit.
She does not have any unique abilities or fun quirks.
All she has is aim and fire and every 8 or so seconds the grapple hook which is iffy at best as a get away.
Fun is subjective and it’s a stupid reason to rework a character, plenty of people have never had an issue with her for over 2 years, if you’re attracted to a new character’s gimmicks then go play them, don’t try to make her a copy of them.
I don’t think its copying. In one of the earliest trailers widow grapples down from a roof, upside down, to get a shot through a window.
Even one of her highlight animations has her upside down taking a shot while suspended.
I think asking for fun positioning abilities for widow is certainly not too much to ask since Blizzard has advertised it several times.
I think she’s hella fun. She’s the reason I got into Overwatch in the open beta, and I haven’t gotten bored of playing her after 2 years, even when she was nerfed into the trash can.
not every hero needs to cater to the babies with 0 aiming skills. just get a better refresh rate monitor, turn sens down and start praccin. Widow is one of my favourite heroes precicely because mastering her is a lot of fun
Nah, the grappling hook lets you set up fun aerial shots, get anywhere you want to go and it is one of the best mobility abilities in the game which has everyone crying for nerfs.
I would argue that the charge on the sniper is a fun quirk, but that is probably just because I am used to boring FPS sniping where you just take the shot and you are done.
But yeah, after Hammond’s grapple, I can sort of see where you are coming from regardless.
Blizzard has literally altered map geometry because Widowmaker had too much LoS, abilities like that would quite simply break her. Positioning is a very dangerous tool in Widow’s kit.
very disappointed in some comments trying to turn this topic into another git gud discussion. Which it is not.
I never once mentioned lack of fun due to getting hits or her being useless. Simply that her abilities are way too limited in the fun department.
Not one person here has mentioned how interesting or engaging the poison mine ability really is and how it can be used in such fun/exciting/skillful ways.
The grapple and sling could still remain as its her only saving grace but more could be added.
The hero is not changing in any new way. She is getting more tools at her disposal.
I can honestly see where both sides are coming from. When I play widow well, it’s fun. When I suck, it isn’t fun. I think this post should be more about what could be fun, and toy with the idea of making widow even more fun than she already is. Like the upside down shot-- that would be awesome to implement somehow. Or even making her ult more than just seeing everyone or something idk. I’m not very creative tbh.
I think Blizzard and player fears of that 0.01% of players who take down entire teams because they poked a single pixel out of cover is making players and blizzard too cautious in changing her.
Look, widow is fine, i can have a good time with her and im TERRIBLE. but that doesnt change that you will have more fun when doing well, that is fundementally how games work.
Except in the beginning of my post as I mentioned simply the satisfaction of doing well with her does not count as being fun.
A lot of Symmetra players had a lot of “fun” before Blizzard reworked her 3 times.
Yes Widow can be fun if you are doing well. Like every other hero out there.
But this is regarding the fact that Widow, like all heroes needs to be “fun” whether or not you are “gud” or not. one of her abilities is lackluster and you have not even address that argument.
I can honestly see where both sides are coming from. When I play widow well, it’s fun. When I suck, it isn’t fun. I think this post should be more about what could be fun, and toy with the idea of making widow even more fun than she already is. Like the upside down shot-- that would be awesome to implement somehow. Or even making her ult more than just seeing everyone or something idk. I’m not very creative tbh.