I am, and always have been, a flex player. These last few weeks of playing comp being fixed as a tank or support have been excruiciating; almost always there’s one person on the other team destroying us and the main hero he is countering ALWAYS refusing to swap. In the past, I would’ve just switched onto something else to absolve this, but being locked into a role is no fun and I can’t do this anymore.
I don’t care about even longer wait times, I don’t care about getting 5 dps on my team. I just want an option to play comp like it used to be. There’s already 3 seperate ranks, a forth ‘flex’ or ‘classic’ one would be no big deal.
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I don’t think it is good to make another gamemode to compete with the rest, as this games community is a fraction of what it used to be and is still shrinking, and doing so will split it even more.
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You swapping doesn’t change the person getting destroyed not swapping.
Also if you’re switching off of a tank/healer then your team is down one tank/healer because obviously the person that isn’t swapping in the first place is not going to switch.
In my experience it worked out sometimes, but it didn’t work out nearly as much as people are trying to make it seem. Yes it feels good to just do what you want if you have a frustration with your team comp, but it caused as much problems as it solved.
Splitting the competitive queue is not the answer to this problem.
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Me swapping to hitscan when our DPS are Reaper and Mei and they have a Pharah constantly on them ABSOLUTELY helps.
Please, PLEASE get it into your head that you don’t NEED two tanks, you don’t need two healers, you don’t need two DPS. Other team comps of varying amounts of roles are , and always have been, viable. Perhaps not at the highest level of play but they’re the minority.
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It can help deal with the Pharah. It’s not foolproof as I said. Sometimes you switch and the Pharah was the only problem, sometimes you switch and your team has a glaring hole left by you switching that the team exploits in another way. Having one support is a huge blow.
Pharah honestly is probably the most glaring example of this “problem” but she can be attacked by both tanks and supports, even if your team is running something like Junkrat/Mei. We don’t need to split the competitive playerbase just because of the odd team that refuses to run hitscan DPS against Pharah.
Then take a situation where I’m a tank and they enemy Reaper is running rampant; just using both tanks as an ult battery. For me to switch off to either dps or support would help far more than staying as a tank for the most part.
Well, the community is already split so nothing new there.
The most likely scenario if Classic Comp was added is the game would retain players as those that don’t like RQ would have a place to go.
I absolutely agree with this but this is because of bad balance not because we need unlocked roles.
Reaper absolutely does not need the amount of lifesteal that he currently possesses and tanks armor being nerfed makes him even stronger. They need to reduce Reaper’s lifesteal and possibly revert the armor nerf. Also D.va and Roadhog buffs are going to make it a little fairer for off tanks to put hurt on him. A decent usable defense matrix coupled with micro missiles makes him have to fade out or take punishment.
I agree with you that his matchup with tanks is currently a huge problem. Idk how in the hell he escaped with not getting a nerf when he was one of the problem children of this patch.
Or communicate with your dps to focus him. Play zarya and bubble yourself and other tank when he’s getting aggressive. Outplay him with hog etc.
Or go Orisa, or go Dva and eat her projectiles whilst also deleting her from the sky when the opportunity arises. Go ana or Baptiste ? Or go all out with Lucio and speedboost your Reaper and Mei toward the enemy team 6v4. Plenty of viable options without switching to dps
After two matches … you will.
‘Communicate with dps’ Yeah in a perfect world that would work. Except 9 times out of 10 it doesn’t. However many times I’ve suggested either focusing a Reaper or switching to something that counters him only to get back radio silence is unreal. Also you can’t outplay him with Hog. A hook, step forward, shoot, melee combo won’t even kill him, meanwhile he’s RIGHT in your face getting that ult charge. Zarya is the only one who can check him, and that’s CHECK not COUNTER. You put ‘etc’ because there’s nothing else a tank can do.
Likewise, if you think I’m switching to Dva in the games current state you must be mad. Are you just parroting what you’ve heard from elsewhere? Because none of these are viable options, especially not Orisa when a concussive blast splits my team behind my shield up with such ease.
I feel like this would turn out just like QP classic is right now. People complain about queue times and the restrictions of current QP and yet for some reason refuse to go play QP classic.
Except… I won’t?? It has never bothered me since launch, mainly because the rate at which it occurs is far FAR less than the Overwatch fanbase has made it out to be.
As tank I think you have many options if there is a minimum amount of communication. Eg pharah np in some maps play in positions where she has to come low and your comp will excel (depends on map always).
Try adding a left click before your combo you’ll be surprised
yay we r getting a classic comp no hero limits finally we can play 6 Dvas again