Playing Tracer is like being good at Sudoku

Sounds like about 90% of the forum discussion surrounding Brigitte. In before “but that’s different – Brigitte was killing me!!!”.

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The forum Tracer mentality makes me really sad. I’ve put over a thousand hours into a hero because they are easy… And I’m still just a Tier 4 ladder loser! :rofl:

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I can’t believe that it takes people 1000 hours to learn any hero in this game. It doesn’t take 1000 hours to learn a character in a fighting game, where there is a significant amount of both technical and tactical skill required.

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Keep saying that because all heroes excepted tracer and baby dva, don’t get one-shot combo by a single mistake in this game.
Bliz successfully calculates the amount of one shot where it would only affect 150HP heroes but leave the other 200HP squishies alive.

The examples include McCree hs + melee
Helix rocket + melee
Pharah one direct hit + dps boost
Zen discord on tracer + any sort of burst dps
etc

Basically you have a mercy dps boost or a zen discord on tracer, you can one shot a tracer with any burst heroes. That’s the reason why countering tracer is a form of team game.

All heroes can be her soft counter, she doesn’t hard counter anyone, and no one should hard counter her, until they released brig.

Tracer’s effectiveness is from killing the enemy, not staying alive. Any heroes can stay alive as long as they don’t leave spawn, but that’s not how the game supposed to work, is it?

Tracer average k/d is very low, as well as her winrate and pickrate, I’m not sure what else can convince you forum people that she’s not really that great like you exaggerated.

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When I read the title I was thinking of Seppuku. And I was like … yeah, we’re pretty good at ritual suicide. XD Bomb’s away!

Anyway, I think my thread about this was more accurate:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableImperturbableEyra-size_restricted.gif

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I wouldn’t conflate learning vs mastering. It took me 400 hours just to aim OK (~40% avg) and get to masters. Another 600 to get to ~50% average accuracy and GM. That doesn’t even include the hundreds of hours of aim training software and scrims.

What do you consider learning? OWL coaches recommend atleast 2 hrs / day to practice aim. Integrated over 2-3 years that’s a lot of time alone. What do you do?

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It didn’t take me anywhere near that amount of time to learn to aim, and I am a 60 year old man with Parkinson’s. Frankly, I should be bringing up the rear in technical proficiency. Don’t you what to tell you.

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Yeah, we are the masters of Sepukku! The best at dying to our own ults! :rofl::rofl:

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Can’t say I didn’t chuckle on that xD

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Doubt. Did you account for the 20+ years FPS experience from your age or is this your first FPS? Aiming better than 40% avg accuracy as Tracer in a non-tank meta (smaller hitboxes) without at least a 100hr+ is unlikely.

Her average accuracy is a bit inflated right now in GOATS meta but it’s 36% right now and 31% in QP.

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You can doubt it if you like, but it was and is the truth. Not really concerned if you believe me as I am not here to impress you. But the reality is that reflexive ability decays with age, and my progressive neurological disease makes me prone to, among other things, uncontrollable movements in my extremities. You seem to me to be of junior high or high school age, which means that your reflexes should be many times more efficient than mine, and unless you are also suffering from a neurological disorder then you should outperform me in terms of learning curve.

If you’re not, then like I said I don’t know what else to tell you.

I have been trying to gid gud with Tracer for a long time now, and still nowhere reach half or even third of her potential. Blinking into the wall, you are dead, blinking into the wrong corner, you are dead, blinking into Hanzo, you are dead. Playing her requires you to know the map layout even without looking.

Tracer by herself not gonna be able to 1v2 or 1v3 anyone, and she not gonna cc anyone to death either. She got the recall to undo her engagement, but that also meant she only has 3 seconds window to do something meaningful, recall too early you would waste a high cool down ability, recall too late and you risk getting killed. And outside of that 3 second window she won’t be able to help her team dealing damage either, that s why Tracer generally has one of the lowest damage output in dps category.

I know I sounds silly defending Tracer, but truth is I never felt cheated losing to a good Tracer. If she could carry her team, she earned my respect.

So this is your first FPS?

First since GoldenEye on the Nintendo 64. I played that with my kids, but only casually and it used a controller with aim assist. Nothing there really carried over to Overwatch. I have a long history with fighting games, but that muscle memory didn’t carry over.

So, yes, this is my first “shooter”, and I got into it because it is an easy and accessible one. This isn’t ArmA, and it doesn’t take dozens, let alone thousands, of hours to learn or master.

Ok. I’ll let the contenders and OWL players know that. Thanks.

Okay, you let them know that an old man with Parkinson’s is able to learn and enjoy this game. I’m sure they will be interested in what you say. I’ll also let the uncle that works for Nintendo in on the proceedings as well.

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For someone who like to enjoy the game, you sure like to call for nerf of a hero that wasn’t even strong in this meta.

As far as I’m concern, those who truly enjoy the game rarely call nerf to anything.

I am not sure if this is addressed to me, but if it is I should point out the reality that enjoying the game and having an opinion about balance are not mutually exclusive. I enjoy Street Fighter V, but also feel that Cammy is overtuned. I enjoy Guild Wars 2, but feel that the Daredevil subclass is overtuned. I enjoy Overwatch, but feel that Tracer is overtuned. Having an opinion about the game you play is something that is normal and should be encouraged.

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Anyone can enjoy the game, I agree, but to truly enjoy it without having any problem, those people will rarely go on the forum to call nerf this and nerf that without any statistic nor real argument to back it up. This is just my personal observation.

I still respect your opinion because you actually called it an opinion, and not just stating it as “fact” like most other anti-tracer people I’ve met on this forum.

almost every hero has less than 50% of wr in low elos.