This is something that has irritated players from the beginning of Overwatch up until now. Trying to get better at the game, improving and fixing what need to get fixed, and fine tuning the actions and reactions you take in certain situations all for a noob or somebody who still doesn’t know how to play the game properly, make all of your efforts in improving go to waste. If you solo que you have it the worst because you are constantly dealing with randoms and hoping and praying you have solid players that can play their role properly or at its fullest potential. Your hoping that the Tank player is not being soft and are afraid of the opposing team and will not let the opposing team take space, your hoping that the DPS is getting elims and have solid mechanics and your hoping the support ACTUALLY HEALS THE TEAM while balancing adding extra utility for their team to take advantage of. This is a lot of responsibility for each player to have in their role (YES THAT STILL INCLUDES DPS). The BIGGEST problem here is that HOW IS A NEWER PLAYER AT THIS GAME GOING TO UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE’S RESPONSIBILITIES AND MAXIMIZE IT FROM THE JUMP!!! Most people in lower ELO’S are COMING FROM A DIFFERENT GAME AND DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW TO PLAY OVERWATCH PROPERLY!!! Some players are coming from Call of Duty and get a rude awakening that YOU CANNOT BRING THAT MENTALITY INTO OVERWATCH!!! Some are coming from Fortnite and also realize that THEY CAN’T BRING THAT MENTALITY TO OVERWATCH!!! Others are coming from CS:GO and they also realize THEY CAN’T BRING THAT MENTALITY TO OVERWATCH!!! Overwatch is not the typical first person shooter it’s has a completely different style and format that you have to understand in order to get the victory. YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH YOUR TEAM TO WIN AND NEWER PLAYERS/ LOWER RANKED PLAYERS (LOWER RANKED PLAYERS WHO STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF THIS GAME) DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT!!! YOU CANNOT SOLO AND DISREGARD YOUR TEAM AND WIN LIKE OTHER GAMES. This game is NOT designed for that!!! This why for a long time I have been saying (especially in lower ELO’S) MY RANK SHOULD NOT BE TIED TO OTHER PEOPLE ACTIONS. Players should have more agency over their own rank ESPECIALLY IN LOWER ELO’S. I SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED FOR OTHER PEOPLE’S INCOMPETENCE!!! What I’m trying to say is that in Lower ELO’S, as long as you are improving your mechanics in this game and you are playing your role properly and not throwing, leaving, making stupid plays, or just trolling, YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER YOUR RANK AND YOU WILL RANK UP BASED ON YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR TEAM AND MAXIMIZING YOUR ROLE AND NOT BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF THE TEAM AS A WHOLE!!! This imo will separate the dumb players and noob players from the competent players who want to understand the game and win. LET THE FOAM RISE TO THE TOP AND LEAVE THE REST BEHIND. Players who have invested hours to understand this game and improve SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED OR HAVE THEIR TIME WASTED ON PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST ENTERING THIS GAME OR TROLLING!!! Let people who are getting a better grasp of the format of this game and play style of this game rewarded for their efforts and not be held back by people who still don’t understand the game. I’m not saying that players should have a free ride to GM NO, I’m saying other people’s incompetence should not hold back the players who are serious and are getting better. That’s why in lower ELO’S, players should be able to rank up ON YOUR OWN as long as they are playing their role PROPERLY. THIS WILL HELP NEWER PLAYERS TO UNDERSTAND THIS GAME MORE AND THE THROWERS AND TROLLS WILL BE PUNISHED HARSHLY. Let the noobs stay with each other until they can get to a point where they can play the game and their role properly AND REWARD THE EFFORTS OF PLAYERS WHO ARE IMPROVING!!! Overwatch is a different game with different mechanics and you need to have a DIFFERENT MENTALITY to play this game at a top level. This post I do emphasize with players who solo que but this can also work with players who have friends they can group up with. I’m not hating on the noobs in this post but IM DEFINITELY CALLING OUT THE TROLLS, LEAVERS AND THROWERS in this post. I want my time and effort to not go to waste for other player’s incompetence or whatever petty reason they have to mess up my progress. I want to que up (especially in solo que) with players who are actually wanting to improve and get better at this game. Hopefully I was clear to state my thoughts on this issue.
Breathe, bro. Take a breath.
I’m with you, it’s frustrating to get players on your team that seem like they never completed a tutorial. I’m not being elitist, I’m not some great OW god. I’m talking about dps that have 3 kills and 15 deaths. Tanks that never go forward, and people accidentally falling off the map.
Why are these people being put in the matchmaker with players that have hundreds or thousands of hours?
Same MMR
People are allowed to just have a bad game from time to time.
The issue is when one player’s “bad game” is like another player’s bad game’s bad game having a bad game. Which calls into question the following:
Im sure your team mates think the same about you
Dude typed a great wall and for what ? this game will never get better. it’s been like this for years.
Dude, you are trying to change the world based on words. It will never happen.
If you aren’t good enough to climb out of low elo, you don’t deserve a handout to make it easier. In the end, you’re still the same rank as the people you’re putting down, and there’s a reason for that
You are partially right. I have been in games that were all but won when someone on my team leaves. It may be a server issue or they could have had hardware issues. But doesn’t change that we got a loss. A game here and there is the difference between 45% win rate and 55% or better. I can slowly climb with the latter. And not it doesn’t even out. I never seem to get anyone on the other team to leave or throw.
I’ve gone on entire losing streaks without my winrate changing, and when it did it was only 1%. Streamed it too.
You are more likely to face a leaver or thrower than you are to have one on your team.
Just had a streak of dps partners with double digit deaths. Like 18 deaths. The rest of the team maybe 7-8.
3 games in a row.
I’d argue, no, they don’t have the same Mmr, they have an Mmr the match maker thought would make an acceptable match, and it guessed wrong.
Just like it guesses wrong when it picks a 2-man D.Va bomb for potg over a game winning 4-man tire.
If it can’t even get that right, why should we trust it to know who pulled their weight and who didn’t when adjusting our mmr?
Exactly! That’s what happened in Overwatch 1 where performance based SR (PBSR) was a thing and MMR was adjusted by certain, farmable or other actions that were detrimental to a team’s win condition (see hide and Rez). Overwatch 2 fixed that kind of nonsense and it’s now entirely based off wins and losses, as it should be.
It doesn’t. The more you win against better players the more you climb, the more you lose against worse players the more you fall. Simple, clean, understandable, effective.
i have had games where me being on dps would cross 25 elims and rest of my team wont even cross 15 elims. We lost all such maps.
You are delusional if you think you can get out of low elo just coz you are skilled.
No, I’ve just climbed from Bronze to GM twice and have around 9 smurf accounts. I know I can get out of low elo because until high Diamond it’s almost impossible for me to even lose
You’re just bad.
even with the above stats you are calling me bad?? lol, i knew you would ignore the stats. Sigh. always an ignorant on these forums.
Anyone can get 25 kills. That’s not impressive.
Which would be you.
it is impressive when you consider that the rest of the team didn’t even cross 15. That just shows a diff in skill. And, that invalidates your thesis.
Anyway. Have fun.
No, not really. Just means you had the worse team, which…oh no? Individual games don’t decide your rank.
You can’t climb because you don’t deserve to
right… lol
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