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Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
If you have good team, your actions will naturally be in sync and enable you to a greater high. But as the baseline, you do need to know how to play on your own and dont expect your team to do what you think they would do.
After all, unless you have a permanent team, it s much more beneficial to improve yourself than improving your teamwork with 5 strangers who you prob wont meet again.
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The funny thing about this thread, is that it is the plat and gold players who claim that there is teamwork in games, and it is the masters players who claim otherwise.
This is by far the most delusional take I found on this thread. He is basically saying, that if a masters player was playing in bronze, instead of deadlifting them due superior skill he would instead âteachâ his bronze teammates how to play and he wouldnât have to carry
Regrouping is not playing as a team. And playing selfishly does not mean constantly dying lol, thatâs awareness issue
Thread should have ended right here. Why are people so upset at this being pointed out? Itâs always been true.
Thereâs a fundamental lack of understanding in here on how differently the game should be played in low ranks compared to high ranks. The teamwork aspect is borderline irrelevant until masters and along with mistakes rarely being punished it makes aggressive âselfishâ plays more effective the lower you go.
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You and I have similar ranks.
- Diamond for tank
- Masters for DPS
The times that Iâve âclimbedâ accounts for people, Iâve definitely shielded/bubbled/etc. selfishly, but generally the best plays are made and the most carry happens by blocking the correct damage for your team.
This is generally what results in the heavy impact a Smurf has on a game. If youâre mechanically diffâing kids, it doesnât matter too much what your charge is. However, if youâre mechanically diffâing kids and save a teammate by bubbling them and in return get even more charge, thatâs legitimately a carry moment.
You have to be adaptive.
Most of times in low ranks trying to play with ur team makes you lose, so play selfish. But sometimes you get that S76 with 90% acc and it would be more useful to play around him.
I hate to say it but this is sage advice, and heard over time many players confirm this. You cannot play OW in bronze like you do in GM; you will lose because the team is incapable of performing to coordinated actions. In effect OW is essentially just a death-match/skirmish with objectives up until about mid-Plat at the earliest, probably closer to Diamond. Sucks really, because for some players itâs natural to be âtacticalâ and in the lower tiers players are just zerging.
Did i say he wouldnt carry? Of course he would but he most (not all) masters and GM would help their team teach them things while playing no they are not going to get good all of a sudden but hecwill try and teach them skills that could help them improve over time if they practice
Any high-level micro strategy a master player could tell a bronze player will likely roll right off of them, since they donât understand the game well enough (or have the mechanical skill) to execute that kind of thing. If they did, they wouldnât be in bronze.
Hell, trying to teach even diamond players GM strat doesnât really work, because diamond is just plat with a fancy border.
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When you try to tell someone their way of playing for the last 6 years is wrong, it will most likely create friction and toxicity among the team. It s really not worth the effort.
I dont think a bronze can suddendly improve after just hearing a sage advice, so at best you can communicate what you are about to do or what s about to happen and hope they make do with the information on their own.
Why do people think i am saying the master will make his teammates super good right away of course he is going to carry the team but he can give sound advice help he teammates see some of the easy mistakes they are doing, and then if the choose theuly keep practicing and eliminate those mistakes
âStop tricklingâ has been the #1 complaint for every rank since the game came out, and yetâŚ
And i bet you some people have taken that advice to heart, i habe and on PC i am low bronze, there are people in this world that want ro learn you cant stop teaching because there is many more that dont
Playing like a bronze, to climb out of bronze is how you stay in bronze.
If you play like a diamond, no matter what rank you are in currently, you will eventually reach diamond
Gm? diamond
Diamond? diamond
Bronze? diamond
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And it always will happen, like it or not. We got rid of certain ult, that could salvage that situation, so now itâs almost unavoidable loss.
No, it wouldnât. Trickling is like, the exact scenario where mass res is completely useless, because you donât get a mulligan on a fight. You res the one or two people who died on the objective, take another 3v6, and hope for the best.
They trickle in one by one and drop dead, so you revive them all together. And even in place they supposed to be at - at or near objective.
Whole âtricklingâ phase usually was rather short - one teammate rushes in and quickly dies, another one, third oneâŚyou get the point.
Yeah I reckon itâs easier to play Rein on console though. Playing Rein on PC where itâs an FPS wild west and everyone can aim, you literally go from full HP to 0 HP in the blink of a eye if you disregard your team.
i would assume he would try to coordinate in vc especially with the supports and maybe the dps to.
if the team isnât toxic and plays together, it shouldnât be a huge deal to out play them.
but yes you should always be able to provide value yourself. iâd assume if all others are bad he goes hog/ball rampage