Pharah and widow to be forever trashcan tier

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No love for pharah blizzard? Cant we get some mobility during barrage? As it sits now, pressing Q is a respawn simulator even in low ranks where people dont pay attention to pharahs! And widow is still a useless glass cannon. You have no love for these two :frowning:

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Widow is fine. The barrier meta is just too many barriers though.

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Phara can get some changes, sure.

Though do note that Widow can still be quite OP if the user has good mechanical skill.
The nerf to the charge-rate was fine, she still has quite the same value.

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pharahs in an odd state and widow is great lmao

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Easy Pharah rework. Sit Barrage into a new ability, have it require: Charge time= missiles launched=cooldown length. Balance accordingly. Give Pharah a new ult. I’d personally enjoy her taking a bit after Bastion and shooting highly explosive rounds, say like a damage version of EMP.

Widow, Ashe, and Hanzo need to be reworked off of “instant one-shots”. It’s unhealthy in the game by far. If they get moved off that, they can be silly and fun and still broken in their own way.

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So useless that GOATs was created because she was so busted

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Do you know what trash can tier is?

Widow is definitely not in it, and Pharah is also not in it.
Look at the tier with Bastion and Sombra, that is trash can tier.

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That’s cause Pharah just doesn’t work in this game, she’s needed a rework for a while now. I mean heck, Blizzard even replaced her with Echo :grimacing:

No comment :zipper_mouth_face:

Other than, I think venom mine being on a 12 / 13s CD is still ridiculous.

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Pharah needs an update to ult more than anyone else

It’s literally never been touched since beta. It needs to evolve with the game’s landscape

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fixed it for ya no thanks needed

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There are much worse characters than Pharah. Also, Widow is one of the best DPS heroes in the game lol

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You’re insane if you think widow is trashcan tier.

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Useless? The highest picked dps this week in GM?

If she’s useless what’s Sombra?

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Widow absolutely does not need any sort of buff

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Yeah no, GOATs became meta because it was the only comp that could survive against double sniper comps

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Parah kinda op on console, she get barrage easy and a granted 2 kill at least , however she’s kinda ez target but I get annoyed I see her like 24/7 in games (my opinion)