Lets show some support for our favorite scientist fiend with a buff of any kind.
I support this. He’s been pretty bad for a long time and nerfing his competition has barely done a thing to make him better.
I just sorta made a post about this
as a secondary fire, let him detonate his sheild doing a small amount of damage, like in the animated short
I don’t think Winston has really needed a buff ever since the shield health buff, he’s pretty balanced
Winston is just one of those characters that suffers more from power creep than others. They just need to nerf the characters strong against him a little bit and Winston should be fine.
This is more of a broader thing. Not a specific buff (though thats a really cool idea) but just trying to get some love for the lovable ape.
He’s not balanced, dude. He’s utter trash in ladder because nobody knows how to properly dive until GM and he’s the only main tank with hard counters. And Winston can only main tank when the whole team commits to dive, which rarely ever happens
What about maybe two charges of Jump Pack?
And He being able to cast Primal Rage even when under CC status?
He’s definitely just powercrept. He was meta in dive when his stats were weaker.
We just need to fix the damn power creep.
a bit of damage boost or more damage/hp to primal rage can be nice.
but the biggest buff they can give him is more support heroes that counter other things but dive.
You don’t have to run a dive comp with Winston, you know? It’s literally possible to use him with tanks besides D.va or Hammond.
Shocking, I know
Winston Sigma is a pretty good combo, Winston Zarya is good if Rein isn’t what you need, Winston Rein works if Zarya isn’t what you need!
And as for hard counters, nah, not if you learn the matchups and how to work around them.
Winston is a mechanically easy hero, but he requires a lot of mental work. This is why people think he’s bad, because on the surface that’s certainly what it looks like. Taking the time to learn the hero and who he works with goes a long, long way.
How?
Even his counters like doomfist Reaper or Roadhog are bad atm they can’t just nerf them. They will always counter him no matter what.
Winston should usually counter supports but most of them can just avoid him or outheal him.
He should also counter Snipers but they all have good mobility to go back to their team when a Winston dives them…
He needs some buffs.
That’s why maybe two charges of Jump Pack could work I guess.
You’re honestly better of with a Rein instead if you’re as good at both heroes. Which just shows how bad Winston is right now compared to the competition
All I can say is practice
Learning the best way to apply Winston is the biggest hurdle in playing the character.
As for nerfing some characters, I meant like Ana, Reinhardt, and maybe Torb? Obviously Reaper, Hog, and Doomfist would be worse to nerf than some of the more popular picks.
[haters gonna hate]
why not make it so when he connects JUMP PACK (or even bolder, his primal rage too) it also very quickly stuns? just enough to cancel the stunned player charged ability.
And I’d say that’s a problem with Rein, not Winston. Rein’s been changing more recently than Winston has been.
what if you made targets that he jumps on get a debuff that makes them take more damage from his primary?
Winston could use a small buff and Rein a small nerf. Or tweak Winston’s harsh hard counters
Give him the ability to hoist over ledges.
Irons out awkward mis-jumps with the Jetpack ability and gives him just a little bit more mobility independent of it.
Indeed
If we just hit the buff button on Winston because another character is encroaching on his territory, that’s how you create power creep. And that’s the reason we’d be buffing Winston in the first place, so that would end up with us needing to buff other characters to compensate.
It’s a vicious cycle that doesn’t end until we start slapping the problematic characters with harsher nerfs than they’ve been getting, like Ana. And not so harsh that they go back to the dumpster they clawed their way out of, just harsh enough so they stop with the stranglehold on the game.