Permaban... a bit too much? 🤔 [LONG POST]

I get it. Blizzard does not want any toxicity. Not even borderline toxicity. Heck, the argument could even be made that Blizzard actively penalizes anyone acting with a PG-13 attitude.

But that’s not what this post is about. This post brings to question whether or not permabanning (aka permanently banning) is really effective at all, or is it flat out informing the player that they must re-purchase the game if they wish to play again.

For me, I do not see the player learning or have any reason to make any steps to reformation with such a punishment. With money not being a factor (not a major factor at least), any player who has his account permanently banned only will laugh at the punishment, spend ~$20 on another copy of the game, and continue being the same person without hesitation.

I feel as though, the silencing of the account, while doubling each duration, is the absolute best method. Because while most folks do not care about having multiple accounts, I personally find pride in having only 1 account, as I really enjoy how analytically interesting it is to see how I’ve changed, improvements etc from season to season, and with which heroes.

Having said that, I find it most painful that my account has been banned. Without going into too much detail, I’ll admit I was toxic up until my 195 day silence. But with all things considered, I also made the unfortunate choice of maining Torb and Hanzo before their re-works, so you can imagine the amount of grief that was thrown at me. In addition to those poor hero choices, I tended to play a lot (10,000+ games before I was banned). With these factors, not only was I on the receiving end of toxicity just about every game, but I also wracked up numerous unwarranted reports. This is ultimately what lead to my permaban, and to top it off, Blizzard refuses to comment or give any inkling of proof as to what lead up to my final ban (being that I firmly believed I was a mannered, supportive teammate… knowing that I was on the verge of being banned or receiving another hefty punishment).

Regardless, I am still banned without reason, and although I do in fact have 2 other accounts I can easily hop onto, the prestige and pride that I had with my main account was magical to me. Pouring so much effort into one account just to ultimately have it banned without a final reason has left a sour stomach in me towards both Overwatch and Blizzard. I struggle to find the energy or care to play the game anymore, knowing that it all may just be a waste if Blizzard decided to ban it again without telling me why.

That is why I am wondering is a permaban effective? I mean, if Blizzard wishes to discourage loyal players from ever playing their games again, then perhaps. But I’d find a much more just punishment (if the punishment is indeed deserving), for Blizzard to hand out an outlandishly long penalty. 1 year silence, 1 year ban, etc… I believe the message will be better received by the person at fault, rather than permabanning that player. Because having my account which I literally played daily, for almost 3 years straight, 10,000+ games, almost all golden guns, etc, to be permabanned, has left me with a distinct disgust towards Blizzard and Overwatch.

I honestly never had any ill feelings nor grudges towards teammates or enemy players after the game was over. I never took anything personal nor meant to be personally toxic towards others during my play. I always took the games (ranked) seriously, with every intention of winning, and accepted fair losses just like anything in life. I just firmly believe that I operate on a different wavelength than most folks, and often times can be misconstrued as toxic or mean. That was never the case, and I always strove to better my attitude and choose my words more wisely after each punishment. But due to Blizzard’s vagueness, I honestly struggled to pinpoint what it was that I said or did that was deserving of an abusive chat report. It’s like, how can I correct my problems if I can not specify what the problem is? I can assure you it wasn’t anything obvious like I hear others at times, such as swearing vulgarity, making racist comments, or saying players have conditions (ie. autism, retarded, etc). I did none of that. Let me repeat, I did none of that. Yet, I am permanently banned and still do not know why.

So when I see that my account was banned as opposed to being silenced or suspended for an extended period of time, like a year, I can only be left to believe that Blizzard does want to have a toxic-free community, but take it on with an overly aggressive behavior, such that, they are capable of punish enough accounts to the extent where that player ultimately buys another copy of the game to bypass their punishment, in turn, generating more dollars for Blizzard.

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i am not going to read that
TLDR

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We Live In An Economy

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You know the rules. They have every right to permanently ban if you give them a reason. Sorry but that’s how rules work.

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if you did something to get permabanned then you deserve it, ain’t gonna get sympathy from me

if you buy a new account and get permabanned again, blizzard should hardware ban you as well. get a new PC if you wanna play

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I am actually not sure of the rules. Is one tricking bannable or not. Supposedly not, according to the precious rules, but what happens is another story. And Blizzard is not even sure what trolling and spam are. So it is very hard for me to follow rules that they themselves seem to not understand. Is that on me? I highly encourage them to read their own rules, that might help make things clear to normal people who did read them.

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They perma banned you and you are saying you don’t want to play your other accounts even though you could. Seems like it has worked perfectly, one less toxic person in the game.

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At the end of the day, that’s sorta the point. You’re not supposed to be able to just shrug off a punishment, wait it out, then come back all nice and dandy as if nothing happened.

If you rack up enough violations to warrant a permanent ban, then you sorta deserve a punishment severe enough to finally get to you.

And if someone gets banned for a year like you ask, why do you think they wouldn’t just buy a second account anyways? Do you really think that people would be willing to wait a full year to play the game if you just told them to do so? That they wouldn’t just go for the immediate bypass like they would anyways?

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I actually read all of that. Haha.

So from my point of view…you personally admitted multiple times in your essay that you were toxic and you operated on a “different wavelength than most folks”. You basically told yourself the reason of why you got a permanent ban while asking others of what you did wrong to deserve it - too many people reported you for the same reason, and it must have been a very significant amount of people reporting you (and specifically saying what you exactly did wrong) otherwise there would have not been a permanent ban issued.

You don’t need to be vulgar specifically to insult other players. There is many, many layers of toxicity that ruin other people’s experience in the game.

There are other players with the similar hours played who haven’t been banned, but the difference was their attitude.

And one other thing: It’s not just Blizzard. You’ll find permanent bans in literally every MMO and FPS out there, but like in OW, it’s not issued light-heartedly. There are certain conditions you need to meet before getting permanently banned from the game.
There are many people out there randomly reporting, and I’m pretty sure I got reported a few times for certain comp games; picking Mercy or telling someone “It’s just QP, relax”. However nothing will come out of it, because Blizzard is aware of the fact that some people are very inclined to report.

My suggestion? Move on (or don’t), improve your behaviour towards others and you will be able to play any game for a long time.

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I read everything and I kind of agree with you.

Even tho I am a Bastion one trick in GM who never get banned, I remember getting banned one time on my alt account for playing Mei, not even throwing or anything like that just playing Mei and trying my best with her.

But guess I was unlucky and people reported me at the start of the game without any reason, literally saying report Mei when the enemies were not even aware than our team had a Mei.

Then second game we accuse me of trolling, cause i was maining Bastion, Torbjorn and Mei on my alt account even tho I was at the same rank than them with positive win ratio.

But sometime people are just stupids.

Permaban shouldn’t be a thing i think.
I tought that this was only reserved to cheater or ultra toxic dude.

Anyway, they should only make 6 months punishment, because you can always change of attitude. (Except for cheater, **** them).

I agree, it’s not Blizzard’s intention to minimize toxicity. If they wanted to get rid of toxicity via bans then a banned person would not be able to just get another account and continue on.

It’s all about money, they had a reason to ban a dedicated player knowing they would just get more money out of them. And also their fake 40 million players is so bogus. My account that’s been banned for a year now still exists, it still adds to the supposed 40 million, yet no one can ever use it. They are just phonies that use false numbers to promote their game.

Edit: btw all the people saying you deserve this and that, come on now. If this was a streamer like Arrge no one would bat a eye, yet most of you would crucifix this guy based on zero proof, and believe me Blizzard gives no insight on bans. Lots of people get banned for playing off meta, yet seems you have to be a big streamer to be able to challenge a ban

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I mean, if you’re saying you don’t really want to play the game any more then it sounds like it’s having the desired effect.

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I mean, you sort of had it coming

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To be fair I think a perma ban should mean you can’t just buy another copy of the game and start playing again.

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So you didn’t learn from (implied) numerous silences up to and including a 6+ month silence, but it’s the best method?

Pass. You were toxic enough to get numerous escalating punishments over the years. Work on your “different wavelength” when interacting in your next game and maybe you can avoid getting banned this time.

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“I was banned and Im not happy; It’s not fair rich people can buy multiple accounts and not feel the same way im feeling.”

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Suspending/Banning doesnt work, Increasing avoid slots to infinite with no expiration date works.

Blizzard knows this.

But they just want to sell more copies of the game lol. They suspend just about anyone these days and those ppl buy 2 -3 copies of the game just to get back in.

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It doesn’t. What Blizzard does know is math. Giving everyone infinite amount of avoids creates an ever increasing net which makes queue times ridiculously long until it can’t start a single match anymore. Just doubling the slots from 3 to 6 would have a huge effect on matching algorithm.

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lol, they were careful before they increased it to 3 because of the impact it might have on queue times. infinite avoid slots you’d be queuing for hours for a game.

Permanban is one of their marketing channels to sell more copies of the game.

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