People who think Widowmaker is hard have never played snipers in any other game

Widowmaker is by far the easiest sniper I’ve seen in any game that has characters of that same archetype.

Widow has:

  • no flinching when getting hit to throw off accuracy
  • no worry of losing ammo supply
  • no range falloff
  • no bullet drop
  • same amount of health as characters who have to push into the enemy to get value
  • no scope sway to make it harder to shoot accurately
  • an amazing ability that works both to get her into position and out of tight situations
  • literal wallhacks
  • the ability to shoot down most targets without being fully charged
  • one of the game’s tiniest hitboxes

The only major disadvantages she has are the fact that she has longer cooldowns on her abilities and her close range engagements aren’t in her favor…just like any sniper. Then again this is easily circumvented by her grapple anyway so it doesn’t affect her much. Especially when she can just go to her team.


Widow is not hard. There are a multitude of characters in this game with a much higher level of difficulty to play than her. The other hitscans can’t one shot headshot so that automatically makes them harder.

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no flinching when getting hit to throw off accuracy

Wrong. there are multiple heroes in the game that make her “flinch” such as getting shot by soldier.

Another thing worth mentioning is that movement is overwatch is more erratic than virtually any other fps, making landing hs consistently very hard.

  • no worry of losing ammo supply
  • no range falloff
  • no bullet drop

How does this make a character “hard”? There is nothing required except a basic awareness of these concepts when playing the characater/hero etc. Besides there are few situations in overwatch where u will be shooting down a very long sight line.

  • an amazing ability that works both to get her into position and out of tight situations
  • literal wallhacks

Do I really need to name other insane high mobility abilities and ults in the game?

the ability to shoot down most targets without being fully charged

This means absolutely nothing in the context of ur argument. If anything, she has higher skill ceiling because of the existence of charge.

one of the game’s tiniest hitboxes

True, but when she scopes in she becomes very immobile and easy to shoot. This is why widow vs widow is alot easier then hsing a crouch-spamming strafing soldier who is constantly poking you.

The other hitscans can’t one shot headshot so that automatically makes them harder.

I don’t follow your reasoning. if that were the case no other hitscan would see play. Different heroes have different strengths and weaknesses.

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Dirty Bomb had a sniper who was decent in melee with a kukri.

All what your thread shows is that the people who compare Widow to other snipers are actually the ones who never played other snipers.

Seriously, hitting shots in Battlefield is WAY easier than in Overwatch, despite projectile physics. Wanna know why? Because all you are shooting at are massive grunts wider than McCree who are all the same size and animations, while have sluggish movements and the game actually punishes them for trying to ADAD because of this thing called movement acceleration. They also can’t zip around, wallride, blink, dash, super jump, insta teleport, or otherwise just turn around and have their heads hidden behind a terrible posture. Not to mention that you have to account for all of that while trying to shoot behind one way barriers that you are awful at destroying. Did I mention that you have to actually hit a headshot to OSK, unlike some others that you can just shoot above the pelvis?

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Other games doesn’t matter. Widow is still hard in this game.

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Widowmaker IS hard, but has too much mobility for a sniper

Send us a vod champ of your ez pz sniper gameplay in overwatch against the difficult gameplay in other games.

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Name some of the titles you refer to.

I’m a sniper main in most games and I’ve yet to see one where you have to weave shots between giant space animals chasing you down.

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Sniper in TF2 is definitely easier than Widow.

I agree.
In comparison to other shooters, Widow actually fires logs. Her bullets are huge.

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I’ve only played sniper in black ops 2 where any gun litteraly one shots you anywhere on any range.

And theres no 600 hp ape with a shield available.

But i would agree.

Playing Osu! With a sniper sounds 100x harder.

Do i now have to compare doomfist in overwatch to tekken 7?

Theres no one shot in tekken as far as i’m aware

Widow is not hard, but she is definitely harder than most other snipers in gaming…

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Overwatch also lacks meaningful momentum on heroes, has heroes with extreme mobility, and heroes of vastly different sizes.

That last one is a big one.

In MOST FPS games player models are all the exact same size

This lets you line up at a specific spot on the terrain (ie wall) of a corner or other specific location- and always be at the perfect height for a head shot.

In overwatch heroes range from torbjorn to Reinhardt and everywhere inbetween, invalidating the relevancy of this type of familiarity and muscle memory.

I TYPICALLY play snipers in games- always have. From CS (not CsGo, good ok CS), Tf, cod, Bf, you name it.

I’d easily put sniping in Overwatch up there with the hardest of them for many reasons

NOT that I don’t have my problems with snipers. I don’t feel they’re implemented properly for the context of overwatch and how this game works- and absolutely want some changes for them.

But I also have nothing but respect for the players who have the mechanically capacity to hit consistent headshots.

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Just leaving this here to give some people hope. If a Mercy main can snipe so can you.

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Lol thats hardcore stagged wtf. :sweat_smile:

Everyone knows a widow kills every 0.7sec with 1 shot.

You can’t show videos of a missing widow…
Thats impossible.

The forums will go nuts

I mean if she was to easy, i would hit shots after smoking a tree right?

Can you show me the aim assisst pls?

Aand as a side note:
None of the 3 guys tried to dodge you.
None of the enemy tanks tried to annoy you.

Enemies deserved those 3 deaths 100%

Or do you close your eyes once you see reaper walking at you? If you think its bc widow is broken, then you WOULD close your eyes at a reaper comming at you. :sweat_smile:

Bc you’d expect the widow to hit so you don’t even try to beat her.

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I would take the opinions of you guys who say Widowmaker is easy more seriously if a single one of you were capable of climbing to a decent rank playing hitscans only, or if you were introspective enough to ask yourself if you are capable of climbing with her

But you aren’t

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K dude, but do those other games have heroes like Genji or Winston ?

This is probably Widowmaker’s greatest strength. As a glass cannon, she has an overtuned HP pool.

100 life + 50 shields would be far more suitable for her playstyle.

Vouch for McCree being much more unforgiving and difficult to play successfully.

and most people who complain about Widowmaker can’t even play hitscan.

they are just mad they can’t yeet aoes at everything and auto aim it to death.

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Competitive sucks and you know it.