People who hate on smurfs

Whats your issue with them? Do you genuinely think they are holding you back from the next rank?

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I think it’s more that the games are not always fair because of them.

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I get that, but all games arent really fair. Smurfs ruin some games sure, if your playing casually. if you want to try to get better, smurfs are a great way to test yourself tbh.

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Yeah other than what I said I don’t know. I don’t have an issue with them I’m just saying what I saw on the forums.

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gotcha man, just rebuttling it

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are you really this ignorant to ask why people don’t like smurfs?

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I’m scared people will see my younger brother as a smurf because he’s level 10 and sometimes I play Overwatch for him. I’m level 1400+

It’s more like if you’re in High School and on the basketball team. You go against another school and they have Michael Jordan on their team. You have little to no chance on winning.

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This.

The volume of smurfs dramatically ruin this games perception of balance and it’s match making system.

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They’re ruining games by intentionally playing well below their true rank.

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wouldnt it be better practice or is the win the only thign that matters

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No I think it is people want fair games.

Playing people being slightly better helps, playing against people who don’t let you leave spawn doesn’t.

There is a level where it just doesn’t help at all.

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It goes against the whole idea of being in a competitive environment with other people around your own skill level. It’s like a college linebacker showing up to a peewee footbal match - yea, we’re all playing the same game, but these people are in this rank for a reason - they’re trying to have fun with other people at their skill level.

I play Overwatch for the enjoyment of a simple competition between two even teams in a game that is strictly designed for a team setting. Whatever team wins is the team that managed to work together and use their strengths the best. If I wanted a game that really stressed getting good at mechanical skill or something, I’d play Titanfall 2 or CS:GO (which I do). Overwatch’s appeal for me is an even team setting with dedicated roles doing specific things to take the whole group to a win. Having a smurf with a thousand more hours than anyone in my team pop in and play deathmatch for the entire match doesn’t feel fun. If we win, we know it’s because the other team was effectively playing a man down. If we lose, we know it’s because the other team has the metaphorical college linebacker in our peewee huddle.

It’s not even a “I’m frustrated at losing an otherwise even game”, even if the game is completely even with the smurf, that smurf has left a trail of destruction getting to the rank that they’re going to hover at. They’ve ruined countless games for other people who went into a game with elo-based matchmaking expecting an even fight. Like before role-based matchmaking started I could see the point of a smurf, say if you’re a dps main and want to split off to playing support but don’t believe you can play it at an effective enough level - that I could see a smurf being useful as a learning opportunity. But not anymore with both role and open queue available.

This is a cop out at best. You test yourself by improving and climbing up the ranks. You test yourself by proving that you’re a better player than the people around you, not by getting thrown - not by choice - into a match with people who should not be near your current skill bracket.

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No, this is an esport, and if I put on a lower belt to “wreck the noobs” in a tourney, I would be banned from competing.

Pretty much every sport would ban someone doing this because it brings the sport into disrepute.

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Most people will go around the ranks naturally, that doesn’t make having every 1 and 5 (or whatever) game being completely ruined by someone playing way above the rank they are at.

this isnt an esport, its a ladder in a game. esports are not in plat.

Blizzard calls and markets it as an esport.

They want to call it an esport, they need to police it like an esport, and you need to respect that.

Just because YOU don’t treat it as an esport, it doesn’t mean it isn’t.

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Think about the where the definition comes from using the term “ladder”.

It implies you climb the ladder alongside other people.

This ain’t Chutes and Ladders where someone who has climbed up to the top falls down to the bottom and is suddenly supposed to compete with people who haven’t climbed.

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as I proceed to hit every slide on the board

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No their not as you want someone who is slightly better then you to improve, fighting someone that is two three ranks above you is just going to create situations where your losing constantly and don’t know why.

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