the solo carry mentality I see people talking about on the forums is what’s gonna kill this game. It’s not meant to be a game where you can solo carry, sure it’s possible in some matches and ranks depending on your skill and the skill of your opponents. But overwatch is a team game, like in most sports you can do everything by yourself you need a team if you respect your team and check your ego the game would be much better.
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People trying to change things is why women have the right to vote now. Change is good. Overwatch needs to be less team dependent
I see overwatch becoming less team dependent a good thing in the future - Jeff Kaplan
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I see it as a would you rather - Would you rather be able to 1v6 the enemy team, and be 6v1’d by a smurf, or dominate the 6v1 and get dominated in the 6v1
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Then blizzard should treat it like one and stop throwing us into pugs with team mates spread 1000 sr apart with no voice chat requirement and a medal system that encourages bad habits and selfish play. If it’s a team game give us guilds. Until I see that, giving players more solo carry potential is a good thing.
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The problem for folks who want to carry, is they think they are far better than most of them are. I assure you if FitzyHere, Violet, ML7Support, etc. showed up in your Gold tier game, they would carry no question. But being a team game in design, its that much harder to do. What these people really want is a sense that they are better than others, when in reality the team design merely points out that they really aren’t that much better. Most of these people are “mechanics” players, which can go a long way to “carry” in other games like CS:GO, etc., but that doesn’t work in OW as its frankly by design more integrated.
PS: I don’t care what Jeff K. said - he cannot make the game fundamentally change from this, its too deep in the design. Only if we flatten all characters to essentially the same power level, reduce combos, etc. could this ever really happen. I like Jeff, he’s charismatic and entertaining, but he often says things that just aren’t going to happen or can’t happen.
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No we don’t. We want our SR in our own hands, not in the hands of 5 random strangers.
He can. Overwatch will become less team dependent.
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You missed my point - if you’re grouped with a team, you think you are that much better, but the reality as most coaches and reviewers will identify is you are making plenty of mistakes. People labor under an illusion they are that much better, if you truly were across the board, your MMR/SR would already be higher.
As for “less team dependent”, I will guarantee you this will not happen to the extent some people want, its just not possible. Jeff talks out of his hat a lot… review how many things he says to generate commentary, and how many actually pan out… its almost a meme at this point.
I just had to respond to this - not all change is good just by the virtue of it being “change”.
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I can’t speak for everyone else, but I just want more options to deal with certain heroes aside from switching.
With Role Que and Hero Pools, my options of switching to counter certain mechanics or heroes is far more limited, so it makes more sense to create room for players to outsmart their opponents more. It makes the game more enjoyable, and people ace actually able to play what they want rather than be slaves to the meta.
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Jeff mentioned this before but said it would have to be apart of the Blizzard app for some reason
They need to finish the balancing job they started with 2-2-2. Supports got hit, then tanks, now its up for DPS changes. One problem you cannot escape is in a game where each kits is effectively unique, there will always be a need for some switching, people often don’t like to (I don’t), but there are times there just is no way not to when an ability is so unusual like Pharah’s flight ability, or Bastions absurd damage output…
Aside from Mei and McCree there’s not many more threats left.
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When i was in bronze i did think that. 
Now in plat i don’t essentially think i’m that much better, it just bothers me to see extremely stupid plays (ofc i do them too, just not the same)
Especially people with nearly 0 idea, in the same rank.
Makes me feel like i could be much higher.
If i’d just play and show it.
But personally i know why i’m there.
Because i put my own enjoyment over climbing the ranks.
(otherwise i would have abandoned aim depending heroes since a long time.)
And maybe went to dia / master if i put enough time in other heroes strenghts than aim.
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Thanks for replying, and that’s the point: everyone “sees” the other guys mistakes, but never their own. I really wonder how many of these “Ah wunnah karry” folks even bother with their own VODs or ask someone else to review them? Probably less than 10%, and yet they think they are special like Harry Potter, just held back by the Muggles. As the coaches all say, in solo queue the only thing consistent across all your matches… is you. You’r not Harry Potter folks.
I think the changes are a good thing, AS LONG as everyone gets roughly the same carry potential across the ranks.
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Why cant there be one game that is team dependent and let some of us who buy this game to not just shoot stuff to still have fun like it was here before?
Why one game that is about something else, must be changed. There is plenty of fps where you can solo carry, so what is wrong with one being team game?
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I don’t take ranked too seriously. Games are rarely decided on how much I do. It comes down to if my teammates are complete pepega or not. - Yumstalebread, top 500 player.
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Do you believe you are not responsible for some of the teams problems? You climb by asking yourself if you are providiing value in each game, and how you could do better. Maybe you do, most people do not, but think they are magically good and everyone else mysteriously sucks. Reminds me of thousands of schizophrenics who all believe they are the messiah… they can’t all be the messiah…
This isn’t an argument. Overwatch is more team reliant than any other team game. It’s an undeniable fact.
If overwatch was less team reliant, and I dropped from 2400 gold where I am now, to 500 sr bronze, that would be a good thing. Because I would know exactly what the problem is.
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Because its not like any other game mayby and is not supposed to be?
Is Overwatch and CoD the same because you walk in both games? If overwatch became less team dependent, sharing one thing in common with another game wouldn’t make it the same.
“If overwatch is less team dependent it will be the same as other games!”
As if fighting terrorists as an american soldier in CoD is the same as playing a lesbian tracer in OW.