People in gold and silver, it's not you, it's the system

Except they’ve stayed in the past several times that matches are made using your mmr. Not dragging people drastically above or below it to “balance” for you but by taking a lobby of people who are as close as possible to that mmr and throwing you all in a match. The only time it considers “averages” or “balances” is when there’s groups/duos of people who are drastically apart.

It’s stupid easy to maintain a rank compared to climbing everyone knows that, even if you shouldn’t be there. Not to mention you’re admitting to buying an account that was boosted for you? Not exactly a sign for credibility or someone who’s word I should trust in any way.

It won’t be changed for OW2 so if that will make you quit I suggest you start now. The multiplayer engine and ranking will be staying exactly the same. OW2 may as well be a pve dlc and the pvp stuff that comes out will be available to anyone who owns the original game. It’s been stated multiple times.

ELO is defined as a rank where you have 50% chance of winning. That’s how it works in chess.

If I’m getting 50% win rate at a rank that is 1000 SR above the current one determined by the matchmaker, then it’s strictly a problem with MM.

Yeah, whatever. I don’t even feel bad about it like I felt after writing an aimbot that uses HDMI capture and hardware mouse event injection to get to GM.

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Play smart, not hard.

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This ain’t chess.

It’s extremely easy to “maintain” when in a higher rank because you can be passive and do little in order to “do your job”. It’s like in basketball I will have to do more of the scoring myself if I’m playing with worse players but as I play with and against better teams I can simply focus on playing defense and keep passing the ball to them and never take a shot.

So buying boosted accounts and hacking? Yeah you’ve lost any credibility you may have had. Bet you never use that aimbot when “maintaining” in your boosted account.

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Maybe you’re jsut bad at the game :shrug:

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Nope, it’s not that. You’re clearly not really paying attention to the thread since this is addressed in the original post and many times throughout the thread.

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I am not gonna waste more time responding to your thread

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This ain’t basketball.

The SR enforced by the matchmaker is toxic and should go. SR needs to represent the true level, not what MM thinks it is. There should be no difference between “climbing” and “maintaining”.

Yup. If the game doesn’t have integrity, then I don’t feel obliged to behave.

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It’s more like basketball than chess. There’s no teammates in chess that you can just passively support in order to win. In chess you win or lose off of just yourself.

Gotcha so you have 0 integrity and credibility. Gonna proceed to not take you seriously anymore.

This almost sounds like silver is a higher rank than plat since you have to be more skilled to be in silver. Seems backwards to me which is why OP is saying what he’s saying.

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Wonder if some of WoW bots, that grind resources, are also your creations. I appreciate finding smart ways to dodge things, that were used to artificially extend playtime.

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It’s not that you have to be more skilled in silver. It’s that you can rely on your teammates more in higher ranks since they are also higher tier.

In the higher tiers you can passively just support whatever your teammates do and win off of that and more and more frequently the higher you go.

It’s like with my basketball analogy. If I want to win against a group of random people in a pickup game, I will likely have to do a lot of the scoring myself if I want to win consistently, but if I’m playing with “high tier” players on both sides? I can just focus on defense and passing to my teammates to score for me.

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Nope, I have not distributed my code (and it also requires actual hardware and a bit of soldering to work). I have zero interest in helping other people to cheat.

Miko amazing post my guy, i dnt play often anymore and dnt post much either. But you are 100% right. Highest i have made it was top 100 doomfist in season 9. This account was to learn sombra and support and is around 3200-3400 consistently. I can take any new account and place it in diamond off the bat. On almost all other games im usually the equal of masters on here.

I have an old account where i learned to play mouse and keyboard on and left it off in low gold, now use it for qp and sometimes playing comp with friends. I decided to try hard on it this past two weeks to get it to atleast diamond.

I can 100% tell you and anyone on here its retarded hard. Ive run into people pulling strats i only see when a gm smurf is in my diamond or masters game. People with insane aim and game knowledge either on a new account or somehow stuck in gold.

With going 30-60 elims and less then 5 deaths a match as cree/genji/zen ive just now hit 2400. So its doable but the time/grind/aggravation required is not worth it. You lose so many due to throwing, leavers, smurfs, zero coordination.

Best option is play for fun or play something else like i have been doin. Kinda sad to see how bad a game has become only because of how bad the community is and lack of anything from the devs.

Peace

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Yup. I’m an actual Candidate Master in chess (Soviet system). And yet, it makes no sense that the SR would work differently.

In chess the ELO adjustments are automatic, you will simply statistically drift to your true level by taking matches with opponents of your current ELO.

Sure. I don’t really care either way.

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Not sure if it’s even cheating, when part of gameplay you skip like that was added simply as filler.

Like it happens with rare items in MMO games, where you have to spend hours grinding lots of trash loot to get them.

At this point, I won’t mind cheaters completely destroying Overwatch. Especially something as treasured, as that top 1% of players.

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2750 to 3250 is the same rank same skill.

3250 to 3700 has so little difference in skill it’s much of the same.

Players have to stop pretending each rank is some gigantic skill gap difference. It’s not.

Bronze and most of silver is the same.

High Gold and part of plat is also the same.

High silver and most of gold is the same.

Higher ranked games where you play will always be easier because you can make mistakes and your team generally pulls their weight. So even though your opposition is better you are playing as a team. The team coordination will always make games feel easier. Overwatch isn’t a carry game. Your teammates have to help in this game. If they don’t that’s it. Gg.

It’s not valorant, cs go, rogue company, cod. Where you can just eliminate an entire team.

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This is so true. When I was learning Ana, I was watching ML7 religiously. I have a spreadsheet, literally, where I have written down every single positioning he makes in all of the maps that are in rotation.

I have used all of those positioning in my low rank games and what did happen in 90% of the games? I was barely able to heal anyone. I did not see anyone, they were pushed up too far. When I said so in the chat and have asked them to pull back, I also always say " I will be positioned here or there so pls stay in my los" their replies were get into a better posiiton so you can heal us. Get into a better position than a t500 so you can heal our Silver behind.

I have soon realized that t500 positioning does not work in Silver, and to make it worse every time I did position just so I could be able to see them to heal them I died, like immediately. There is always a Widow or an Ashe or a Hanzo on the enemy team that will snipe you down. If I try to play corners I fail to heal my team or get good antis more often than not. If you play 10 games you will have like 4 where ppl will listen to you if you tell them that you cannot see them as Ana and they should either push back or go more left or right.

I then also questioned how good my positioning rly was even if it was Ml7 positioning, so I went more with the team to heal them and I died more than I survived. I had to try and find the middle ground, but most of the times that middle ground was also a bad positioning as it left you open in so many ways. I have managed to get value out of my character only because the enemy did not know how to abuse my bad positioning or did not know that they could sniper me from that particular corner I was peeking from in order to heal my teammates.

You cannot play like a t500 in low elo games positioning wise because none of your teammates nor the enemies know how to position themselves t500 wise hence why it is low elo. I still have problems with my Ana positioning, I still get into situations I hate the most, not knowing what to do, where to go because I have one ally on the left another on the right and the other 2 just standing there in the choke thinking they’re doing smth. And all of the callouts saying “pull back we lost 2” are falling on deaf ears. If I had ML7 mechanics I could actually make up fro 2 ppl on my team but I do not so I actually started to learn to frag up more on Ana.

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hahahah, no, its me. I climbed from 700sr to 1700, with 10-20fps. I now get 9fps, and can no longer play my main, dva, since the game has to render 2 models for her, and she takes more frames

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