Literally ALL supports are always nerfed so far into the ground they become useless for year(s).
Support players are already almost all gone and the remaining part is half DPS players who are tired of RQ times.
Why nerf the heals and toolkit of this poor pool of support heroes even further?
I mean look at Brigitte… Mercy… Moira… and even Lucio was nerfed before.
And now they come after Baptiste because he’s the best healer still so we can’t have that either right?
And THEN they complain ‘‘Omg I am not getting heals…’’ - ‘‘Omg heal me!’’
Yepp and Ana players will half constist of DPSers who are tired of waiting times so you only get a couple Ana players that will HEAL you while the other support person is stuck on a bad healer doing like 50hps or so xD
Ok for real though, this forum is a salty and hostile concoction of bad opinions.
You just happen to “side” with the ones that you, yourself, have a large number of playtime towards.
And then, there are nutjobs like me that plays EVERYTHING. Tanks, DPS, Supports, heck I used to be a Mercy main in season 4 because of my potato of a computer didn’t allow me to play DPS. So I see everyone opinions on DPS and vice versa.
It just so happened that people are much more hostile towards DPS than the other 2 roles.
I mean… just go play Mystery Heroes (you know, the mode that actually removes confounding factors such as personal bias given that you can’t choose which hero you play). You’ll quickly see how big of an impact supports have and you don’t even need to be particularily good with them.
It’s better now, but around the time that Brig released it was so bad that matches were pretty much always won by the team that got most supports. Even 6 support comps were borderline unbeatable unless you lucked into one-shot heroes, that should tell you something.
You didn’t realize anything. You just spun a narrative into an “us vs them” configuration and then act like you stumbled onto something.
There is no grand conspiracy to oppress and punish support players for playing that role. My God this forum is getting out of hand with pointy finger tribalism.
Not for hero to hero balance, but it’s a good measure to see general patterns, precisely because it adds an important randomness factor. Why do you think proper statistical research involves randomisation? It’s not just for the lulz, it’s to reduce the number of confounding factors and, news flash, most of the weird things that happened in this game balance-wise is because Blizzard didn’t take enough confounding factors into account.
For example, GOATS-like comps (i.e. tank and healer stacking) became remarkably common in Mystery Heroes already a few months before it was refined by the pros. If a certain strategy becomes unusually effective by random chance, you can expect it to be exploited when people actually have the choice. GOATS and all the consequences that it brought might’ve actually been completely avoided if Blizzard bothered to look at Mystery Heroes. Not adjust its whol balance philosophy to it, just a quick look at its overall statistics is enough.
The difference is - most of the time those nerfs were okayisch.
Mercy is in a decent spot - neither good or bad. If the comp is fine, so it is to pick her.
Moira is also a okay pick now - if you have, again, the right comp and maybe dont need a defensive ultimate or you dont feel comfortable on Bap or get hard focused and cant stay alive otherwise - go for her.
Bap right now is, imo, S tier. However, I never felt like he had an unfair advantage or designe, but I kind of get it. He can heal a lot and on top of that make his allies immortal. Sounds like a tick too much (for some players), I never experienced sth where I said BROKEN ABILITY!! - but it can get frustrating.
Baguetta can be good in, what surprise, certain comps again. And also if you know how to *actually play her (like Violet for example). She can be pretty powerful, especially because you rarely see her and so people dont know how to play against her as well as against another meta support, like Bap. for example.
Overall I think the supports are pretty… balanced. They’re most of the time decent, and if everyone is decent then no one is bad- get me?
And if we cant proviede as much healing anymore like we used to - players need to adjust their playstyle. I mean - the enemies get exactly as much healing as your team - so it’s balanced again.
The Dps’ers are always the enablers, and not the tanks and the healers. Not to mention that it’s probably the Dps’ers fault for Baptiste overshadowing other healers.
Nah, none of the healers have ever been useless. Ana was lacking for a time, but she always had what makes her good today.
Aside from Ana, all of the supports have always been viable picks so long as you’re supporting your team correctly.
No need to be so whiny about not being good enough or know the right time to use your support of choice. The other categories actually do have heroes that are unviable in a lot of situations.
