( The only exception I might have for this is disabling Lucio’s song, personally in an actual team-fight I’ve realized that for the 6s duration of the hack, disabling Lucio’s song doesn’t really make much of an impact like people think. )
Anways, onto the actual point:
Hack doesn’t bring a teammate back to life, it doesn’t get you a team-wipe, it doesn’t instantly kill someone unless they were flying over the edge, it doesn’t turn off someones screen & sound… it makes a target vulnerable for 6 seconds, and any Mercy with a brain or anyone else on their team can help that person live through those 6 seconds, and if they can’t, or the hacked target was just out of position; Sombra deserves the hack and the kill, not to mention you counter a hack by fighting back so she gets no value from it, also her taking literally ANY damage would’ve stopped the hack in the first place… I mean c’mon, D.Va shooting tiny grains of salt across the map is more than enough to stop it.
Let’s not forget that there is only 1 Sombra and there’s at least 5 enemies, and if Hack is the main source of her kit, and the only way Sombra can actually deal damage is with her measly Machine Pistol, her Hack needs to be reliable and consistent otherwise Sombra is useless because nothing else on her kit would be reliable enough to create a good impact for her team other than EMP, but that can go for any hero’s ultimate, meaning if they took that route with Sombra, she’ll end up just like Doomfist did, and she literally JUST got out of that position after an entire year.
Funny how none of this was ever a problem until Sombra became useful, so now that people are actually getting individually Hacked like they should’ve been for the past year, instead of their entire team getting EMP’d every 30 seconds; Sombra is “OP” now. LOL
Well, realistically, she does win team fights with her hack a lot.
For instance, in high ranked games I found that if I’m fighting a Reinhardt and I’m Sombra, he has to switch or he’ll lose 9 times out of 10 as he loses the team fight each time I hack him. His team never reacts in time if I do it properly.
She’s just going to end up enforcing dive, as dive is the only meta she’s not great against.
Well sure, but like I said it’s not hard to for Reinhardt to back up and have his other 5 teammates protect him. Also if she does enforce dive which she’s of course she’s not the best against, that’s another reason not to nerf her.
They also said that when she was released a year ago. I think it’s worth waiting to see what actually happens, because the pick rates haven’t spiked enough to indicate a meta shift.
The professional players play the exact same Comps over and over, some of them don’t even play Sombra enough to know how much of an impact she’ll actually have, especially since they play the old Sombra which is a way different playstyle, not to mention I watch a lot of their streams and I see an enemy Sombra 2/10 games, sure a good Sombra that they might go against will make a big impact but so would any other hero.
Fitzyhere has been Top 500 with Sombra every season, and while he does say it’s “too soon to tell”, he also says that the changes are not OP and they won’t make her a must pick in any rank, and from watching him play Sombra, sure she’s more reliable but she’s no where near as OP like people say.
It’s VERY hard for Reinhardt to back up and have his team protect him, because my team knows that as soon as his shield drops, Lucio has to speedboost in, my hog hooks him, my ana or mccree stuns him, etc.
He’s dead instantly and they have to reset, and ultimately he nearly always has to switch to Winston.
As for whether or not that warrants a nerf, eh. It’s pretty debateable, but I would lean towards the perspective that if a single hero makes traditional 2/2/2 unviable they’re probably overpowered.
Really, because I’ve been seeing a ton of Sombra in the OWL in stage 2 and that is even before her changes. These guys are professional players for a reason. They can play Sombra. Don’t compare Fitzy to Ryujehong please, one is a streamer (while he is good) and the other is a legitimate professional.
Sombra BEFORE her changes is a completely different playstyle, she’s an EMP bot, and thats the only reason they pick her, quick and easy EMP’s, nothing more. But now since Sombra needs to be more engaging and a bit smarter and not just intentionally take damage to farm an EMP, and she’s still a VERY high learning curve, especially with the changes, she’s still not OP.
This is the junkrat situation 2.0. Previously non-meta hero becomes not only viable but as good as other meta heroes and the community calls for a nerf. There will be a ton of posts detailing HEAVY nerfs when only a small change (if anything) needed to happen.
because her game play was by it’s very design one of poke, run away, poke, run away. Then work with her team for an EMP. So if you saw her near her team you sort of knew it was EMP time.
Now? Now she gets to mix it up with her team, hack people constantly, build EMP quickly and drop it with zero counter play. Sombra honestly should have never been introduced into a game of this nature being player HATE having game play options removed without counter play options.
The only reason I assume she was buffed up was to once again shift the OWL game play into yet another newer play style for the next stage. I’m not even saying she is truly OP but her current design and lack of play/counter play is what is annoying the player base right now.
It’s already tough enough to be a main tank or support, blizzard knows this and can see the problems that come from 4+ DPS and so on. So it just seems like a strange game design choice to kick tanks and support players in the teeth with the current Sombra changes. IMO the hack speed should never have been lowered.
I mean, it’s fair to say Libero is one of the best DPS players in the world, and I don’t exactly see a stream of kills or gg ez hacks coming out of him in OWL when he plays Sombra.
In fact, most of the time the Sombra EMP strat fails miserably on Volskaya and the teams that do it get pushed back to B very quickly, because they lack damage and sustained presence on the objective to continue contesting.
I know how sombra worked then versus now. I understand the difference. I just 100% fervently disagree with you that she isn’t OP. I understand wanting to defend your main, but she doesn’t have any counters, and can shut down every tank in the game, or kill supports with ease with little risk. Something needs to change.
Libero is a projectile DPS player, Sombra does not fit his play style. Usually Support players flex on to Sombra, not DPS (except Fleta did the other day for some reason). And you and I are not watching the same games then if you think the Sombra defense “fails miserably”. Totally ridiculous.
Edit: and from what I recall NYXL full held volskya yesterday on defense, so…
Here is the thing with Sombra. Pre patch she was only used as an EMP bot for mostly 2 CP maps. That was the thing she was good for, that was her niche. Regular hack by itself was not worth the pick.
Now they removed her EMP spam due to nerf to Ult charge gain via healthpacks.
Thus hack needs to be good, because otherwise there is no point in picking her.
If you want a mobile flanker which is great at killing targets fast, Genji and Tracer are still better at this. You wouldnt want a Sombra for that. The very reason people play Sombra is because of her hack. Thats her thing, like the barrier is for Reinhardt.
