Patch notes are up (arguing time!)

Baby D.Va, not Meka D.Va.

Zen health nerf with no damage buff to help, really sad. Zen is all glass no canon, S tier to D tier. Pretty much unplayable without duo support to help keep you alive. With health reduction there is no chance for counter play once a tracer or genji dive you. Mobility heros have too many passives to enable mobility. Zen needs a damage buff, 60 damage per orb, or a new passive like mobility heros. Within 10 m of zen he does 60 damage an orb.

Seems fine some heros also need buffs and nerfs like bap and sojourn need nerfs while sym reaper and rein need buffs

Im sorry i think hes fine if you dont heal bot on him

I donā€™t heal bot on him. Heā€™s not as unusable as people on here whine about, but heroes have gotten buffs for less.

itā€™s so funny reading those comments on reddit because greyfalcon comes in and gets mass downvoted every time

I personly think other suppers need nocked down hes a high b teir hero and i think thats fine for him

really? zen was and still is most likely busted. lucio was insane if you were running an agressive comp and mercyā€™s pistol was just dumb. im more surprised they didnt buff the other underperformers though. like ana is pretty bad right now and we all know shes never not a meta hero for long

https://youtu.be/IcdBeHt1bHU?t=1555

Iā€™m still waiting for what in S9 helps tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7gGTw8u8nhs

https://youtu.be/IcdBeHt1bHU?t=1567

Neat :+1:

No he will not. Heā€™s not a character with high demand and a lot of ppl hate him.

A lot of ppl donā€™t understand how versatile junk is and if u look on twitter, youā€™d see ppl complaining about his buffs.

You couldnā€™t even bother quoting them like you used to, how the standards have gone down just like these patches :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Iā€™m pretty sure the devs were ok with his 2 tap combo for awhile.

When junk was first nerfed when he lost his dmg everytime his bombs bounce and he lost his mines radius. Iā€™m pretty sure they stated that theyā€™re fine with his 2 tap being left alone.

i think if the revamped the passive to this

and nerfed some tanks after they would be in a better spot

I remember saying to you junk air shots arenā€™t tough, but honestly I donā€™t think any of the Devā€™s can do it, when there are people who donā€™t even know how a hero operates how can they do him justice, all the changes seem to be targetted to promote the playstyle that someone who randomly picks the hero for 10 mins in mystery heroes would play

Theyā€™re strictly balancing from winrates now. This will fail to move his winrate so heā€™ll be buffed again.

Sigh. Not a single high ranked player thinks Junk is ok. Heā€™s not versatile at all anymore because his only consistent value has been removed.

Plastic 3 players crying about Junk? What else is new? They also cried when the season 9 patch landed saying heā€™d be broken because his nades were bigger when in reality he was unplayably awful. So excuse me if I completely disregard their opinions on the state of the hero.

This is why heā€™ll keep being buffed. The devs do not understand why he was able to be viable in gm+ and frankly most players donā€™t get it either. All these buffs will do is slowly ruin metal ranks and not move the winrate at all in high since they donā€™t address the issue.

They donā€™t care about him. And people who think that you shouldnā€™t heal bot him donā€™t understand the character or what people expect from the support role in this game.

Like saying Mercy needs to be doing damage LMAO

Itā€™s a good change, but it doesnā€™t solve the problem

honestly I donā€™t even care about cc that much lately, I learned to play around, the problem is the damage

and whenever a hero with increased damage (mercy/Zen or even Bap when farming ult is easy) is meta this problem extends and with the passive of the DPS this problem gets worse

Tank has a problem either he explodes or he is immortal

every time a tank is viable itā€™s because of sustein and it usually becomes oppressive to play against
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Ya and the head shot damage plus the anti heal resistance will let you livel onger be healed more and take less large damage

Zen change good.

Zarya change bad.

Broken sombra still not disabled for some reason.