OWL Didn’t Kill Overwatch, We Did

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We were the people who did. OWL was merely just another blow to an already heavily-wounded target. And scapegoat for everything else. And by the way, by we? I mean the entire community. Devs included.

Tell me something. Have you ever really seen such a toxic community like this? And before people say, “Have you ever played: CoD, DOTA, or LoL?” Yes. I have actually. And still do. I even am apart of the FGC (fighting game community l), and it all strongly pales in comparison to the stuff that goes on in Overwatch.

Not once in my many decades of gaming, have I seen people so: Entitled, lazy, triggered, and just overall butt-hurt that they reach a point where they are willing to take a loss — just to hurt their teammates. I’ve never encountered that before Overwatch. Not even in MMO’s. But in Overwatch? A regular occurrence across multiple ranks. As in ALL ranks. There are throwers everywhere.

But oh, it doesn’t stop with just what happens the game. Of course not. You have people on these forums that will sit there, and flag someone’s post, just because that person said something that you didn’t like. Damn the fact that what you said didn’t break a single rule. Because Acti-Blizz are lazy, and don’t thoroughly examine their reports. You just get silenced, and have your appeal denied. Ultimately being forced to take it on the chin. Why? Because you said something that may have offended a group of people that main/play a certain hero. And majority rules. Not substance. Not quality. But quantity. Get enough flags, and get silenced. For nothing. Who tf does that? What type of immature bs is that? But on these forums, and in this community? Happens daily.

Answer me this too. What type of community site there, says that they are done with the game and the devs and says how angry they are this and that. But, the exact moment a Jeff (or just any dev) post appears, suddenly washes away any and all dirt or wrong that they (the devs) have done. Damn the fact that these people ignored you for months. Damn the fact that they keep buffing and nerfing the wrong things. Damn the fact that it’s March of 2019, and Overwatch is still in the abyssal state that it’s in. All you need is a “Daddy J” post, and suddenly the atrocious behavior of the devs gets cleansed as if nothing happened. It’s all forgotten, and it’s all upvotes and smiles to these folks. Only for them to go and do you dirty again within a few weeks time, expect for longer and longer. Let’s not kid ourselves. Each period of silence that has occurred has been longer and longer. But as previously mentioned, it all gets washed away. No fret. Not problem. It’s cool. A new map and new hero! Yay! Right?

So no. It’s not OWL that ruined this game. It was us. The community that did. All OWL did was inflict more damage. And both us and the devs are to blame for that. Why? Because the devs shouldn’t have focused so heavily on a group below 1% of their player base, meanwhile everyone else is in termoil. And us the players, because we shouldn’t have spent a cent on it. We should’ve been smart enough to say, “Okay, enough is enough. I’m not going to sit there, and supply cash to people who regularly spit in my face and behave so arrogant and bold every time they’re in front of a camera. Meanwhile, acting as the glaring problems which exist aren’t there.” Just some food for though.

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But Overwatch isn’t dead…

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Uh huh. You keep believing that. I guess For Honor is still kicking and doing strong too. :unamused:

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Damn you it is dead because I said so, and we killed it. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I mean, you can keep spreading made up info about the game being dead but you honestly only go by what you experience. So keep telling yourself it’s dead if you want.

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I’m curious if the casual players in other games put all this hate, blame and emphasis on the pro scene as this community does? I feel like the OW community is the only one with people too low skill to even comprehend why changes are the way they are actively invested, even if it’s in a negative context, to OWLs the way they are.

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I can tell you right now, that no. It doesn’t happen. Especially in the genres of fighting games and racing games. They welcome them with open arm, and often cheer in joy when they find out that their game has has gone pro; or made it to a competitive circuit. Like take FighterZ for example. Or Smash Bros. Ultimate. You find out that your game is making it to Evo? You’re LIT! The hype is real. You’re excited af.

Overwatch…?

Well… Just take a look around. Lol.

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I don’t really agree with the premise, that this community is that toxic to be honest.

Yes, there’s plenty of bad apples. But by no means do I think this is near the worst or overall that bad even.

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Overwatch management team did , yes, i mean him

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Yeah, I agree that the community is the problem but I’d never blame OWLs. No one on ladder, QP or any mode plays like them anyway. So why care so much about what they do?

Hero changes would have occurred whether there was a pro scene or not because that’s just the nature of these kinds of games.

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The sheer fact that the devs had to make that video, is proof enough. Seriously. Again, I’ve never seen anything like this community. Ever. Across hundreds of video games.

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First a thread suggesting to take out many things that make Overwatch a non generic DPS, now a thread saying OW is dead and we killed it?

Mate that amount of hatred for the game is not healthy … i truly think you chose the wrong FPS in the first place.

Not only OW is not dead but they are going to continue adding unique skills that will make OW special. You can leave the game whenever you want, seems like thats what you truly want.

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I think it’s important to expand on the idea that different gaming communities have always been, well, different. Back during the hayday of starcraft, the community there was vastly different than say your average Golden Eye player. The expectations, wants, and needs of the community are different.

For instance, in Starcraft it is normal and polite for when you know you are going to lose or as the game is ending to say GG or GGWP. In other games like shooters, this isn’t actually as common (as seen in these forums) and others even find it to be toxic when you do that.

I don’t think it’s honestly that weird. You’ve got a game being played across 3 different platforms, with two different communities being lumped together for the same game. I’m not saying there aren’t toxic players, I’m arguing against the idea however that this is the most toxic.

Beyond that, death threats and what not are taken seriously within this community. Versus say, LoL where every other game you had people telling each other to go drink bleach.

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I’ll leave this thread, with this. Enjoy your Inmortality Field and disturbing amount of power creep that is becoming blatantly obviously regarding support (specifically healer) heroes. If that is what you perceive to be: “Special”, “unique”, and all these positive adjectives which the game should welcome with open arms…? Then there’s literally zero point in even making the sightest bit of an attempt to challenge your logic.

Wow…

From: Mercy, Lucio, and Zen… To: Moira, Brig, and now this guy. . . And people apparently are at ease, and find nothing wrong with this. They defend it, and shun those who speak against the obvious crapstorm about to crash on shore. Absolutely incredible. The Overwatch community truly is like something I have never EVER encountered or observed. It’s on a level all to itself.

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Honestely, it has been noted by a couple of people from other esports scenes that the OW community is a special breed.

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That video is really only a testament to their own incompetence. They tried to put the blame on the community for things they for some reason didn’t expect would happen and actively trying to cater to a behavior that’s against the game’s philosophy.

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Just like there’s literally zero point in complaining the skies are blue mate. If you cant see that you are against the very same things that make OW a different game from a regular Warfare FPS, nobody can help you.

Said this before and will say it again : You either bought the wrong game or you got it for the wrong reasons. Good luck out there in CoD, Apex or whatever you play.

Yeah everyone can see what you did here, no point on high-roading here like you are a flawless entity floating over us trying to point out how perfect is your stance.

Bye.

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Lack of content. Lack of quality of life improvements. Enabling (useless) one-tricks which is a middle finger to the competitive community. I wonder why people are toxic.

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In Starcraft, though, especially in 1v1s, the feeling is frequently more that you’re like two chess players each honing your craft. A win or loss isn’t so much a personal blow, but a reminder and an opportunity. Since everything but your enemy is under your control, there’s little delineation to be had or blame to be placed, which gives fewer outlets for negativity.

Of course, that’s not to say every game is taken positively, and the only remaining major outlet, game balance and community “favoritism” (i.e. “balancing for pro play ruins the experience for the rest of us”) is just as strong as here. The firmest difference is that its closest equivalent to OWL came immediately, though, so as it’s never been “new” it can’t really be blamed for changes it always predated.

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I understand that. Which goes back to my point, I think it’s natural for different types of games to foster different sorts of communities with different wants or needs. I was simply using the GG thing as an example of how different communties can form purely because of how different the games themselves are. Doesn’t mean I think either one is really toxic or bad.

In general, I don’t think the Overwatch community is as bad as it is made out to be. I’ve met tons of really friendly people playing this game that I wouldn’t have in other games.

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