OW2 will be 132 role queue!

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@Megadodo-11847

@ClockworkElf-11617

@Megadodo-11847

@Tiberium-21518

There is no data whatsoever pointing toward open queue being more popular than role queue, and you should under no circumstance assume it is.

The individual I replied to had claimed that a majority of players preferred 222. I was hoping this individual would supply data supporting said claim

If it weren’t Blizz would have removed it by now. There’s your data.

Actually…no, that is not data to support the claim that was made

Its all the data you will get. Again, its been a year, no signs of being deprecated from the main game mode. I think its safe to say there is enough support Blizz justifies keeping it in. And technically, that fact is data.

Good luck to another year of trying to get it repealed.

@Tiberium-21518

Again, it is delusional to believe that open queue is more popular than role queue

Thanks for this - been using that exact word for the last year on this - it is delusional to think the majority want OQ. Its about 30% a best.

[Megadodo-11333]

@Windows95-11750

the clues are in the video.

Regardless on whether this is true or not, one thing I am most happy for is the lack of open / chaos queue.

In that respect, I see this as a very welcome change, and hope Role Queue becomes the norm in Overwatch 2 as it has been in Overwatch 1.

[Megadodo-11847]

@Tiberium-21518

I didn’t supply it because it’s a pain to find as it was a forum post, and I’ve linked it countless times here.

@JeffreyKaplan

glad you’re enjoying it. we’re discussing the future of the mode right now.

it’s interesting to see what regions and platforms are responding to the different modes in the game.

i know you all enjoy stats so have fun theorycrafting with this chart (keep in mind this is just data from one day):
https://i.imgur.com/DAd9zXT.png

Here is the post from Jeff Kaplan.

this is not valid data to support the claim that was made

this data has been discussed many times and there are multiple reasons - reasons I has covered extensively on other threads - why it isnt valid for the stated purpose

@Tiberium-21518

Again, it is delusional to believe that open queue is more popular than role queue when there never has been any indication that it was.

I’ve made no such statement

the statement that has been made is the reverse of that, and again, I know of no valid data to support such a claim

@Tiberium-21518

These specific stats were from when they were testing competitive open queue in arcade, and quick play classic had already been implemented for a while. As you can see, QP classic doesn’t even come close to role queue in most regions.

an arcade to main menu comparison is an apples to orange comparison, which is one of the reasons why the data you’ve mentioned here is invalid to support the original claim

[Tiberium-21518]

@Megadodo-11847

this data has been discussed many times and there are multiple reasons - reasons I has covered extensively on other threads - why it isnt valid for the stated purpose

It is the only data available, and still holds more value than anyone’s opinion on the matter even if it isn’t entirely accurate. The data isn’t subjective, people are. Yes, that includes you.
The value of role queue does not need to be backed up by data on the forums, as blizzard has deemed it to be necessary through their own data and is keeping it. If the data had been radically different, QPC would likely have been moved to the main menu as the competitive mode has. However, the claim that role queue isn’t needed very much does require it, as there is nothing available whatsoever that even supports the idea.

It is also worth pointing out that there is a current, public resource clearly showing that competitive open queue has fewer players than competitive role queue, namely the ranked leaderboard.

[Megadodo-11847]

@Tiberium-21518

@Megadodo-11847

this data has been discussed many times and there are multiple reasons - reasons I has covered extensively on other threads - why it isnt valid for the stated purpose

It is the only data available

If the only apple one has is filled with worms, that doesn’t make it good

If the only boat one has is riddled with holes, that doesnt mean its seaworthy

If the only key one has is to a Ford, that doesnt mean it will unlock one’s Toyota

@Tiberium-21518

The value of role queue does not need to be backed up by data on the forums

what was asked to be backed up was a statement made in these forums

it doesn’t need to be backed up unless one expects fellow forum members to accept it as the truth

but again, yes, a statement of opinion stated as if it were fact can indeed remain unsupported by any facts…but it generally is discarded by reasonable readers

@Tiberium-21518

If the data had been radically different, QPC would likely have been moved to the main menu as the competitive mode has.

not at all

Blizzard has the data for every day, not just one single day, and can (and should) make such a decision based on all of the data, not the single day’s worth of data that was released by Jeff

I would say they should imo also consider popularity/preference data, which is not included in the type of data that was released at all. That data is exclusively usage data. Preference/popularity data is not the same as usage data.

@Tiberium-21518

the claim that role queue isn’t needed

I made no such claim

Can you provide a link to where this claim was made?

@Tiberium-21518

It is also worth pointing out that there is a current, public resource clearly showing that competitive open queue has fewer players than competitive role queue, namely the ranked leaderboard.

the leaderboard(s) are not a valid data source to support the claim that was made