OW2 who doesnt have mobility/high survivability useless

Congrats folks! The new meta is boring and has removed every other character that doesnt have high survivability/mobility makes 90% of heroes useless to play unless you want to 100% lose. OW2 doesnt solve anything from its previous opus and blizzard made this new meta only to bring more zoomers into the game because you know fast = fun, right

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Where did you get these numbers from

Please source your data

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What happened to sniper granny?

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OWL / OWC, only mobility/survivability heroes in every matches possible

*doesnt have mibility or high range

Or Robo Monk with balls?

Yeah in large part this all correct. Kiddies jump on dive characters because 1) they are hyper and 2) high movement means in large part evasion and a built-in excuse to not coordinate.

If you doubt this ask yourself who would play Genji without hypermobility.

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So Ana, Zen, and to an extent Bap are not mobile heroes and they are the best Support heroes.

Tanks are all survival by definition so we can skip that.

I guess that leaves DPS but honestly most DPS are fairly mobile. Ashe is one of the least mobile though and she is fantastic at the moment.

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Correction - she is one of the most mobile… her survival by repositioning is profound. Coaches talk about the Coach Gun with it’s ability to reposition and back away from enemies as contributing directly to her survival, and her death ratio proves it.

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Looks at Ana and Zen

Yeah surely that is right… You never played OW2 beta 1 or beta 2 am I right?

10 seconds to reposition within 15 meters makes huge difference for someone who can wall climb, grapple every 5 seconds as ball, shift as echo, just run around as soldier etc and so on. Yeah, really hard mobility, what you gonna do about it wich just 5 seconds dva fly and 6s winston jump, you can only use your mobility twice as fast against ashe…

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Relative to the other DPS she is one of the least mobile. Echo, Genji, Hanzo, Pharah, Sombra, Sojourn, Tracer, Widowmaker, and arguably Soldier/Reaper are all far more mobile. After Bastion, Cassidy, and Torb though you can basically argue that Ashe is right there with Sym in terms of having limited mobility tools therefore least is appropriate.

Doesn’t matter, she is of the higher mobile characters which is proven out by her far lower death ratio. I mean I can quote the coaches on this point… its pretty clear.

To the highest mobility sure, but on average she’s one of the more mobile in reality. She is one of the few in the vertical reposition and near instant horizontal repositioning.

Sure she’s not Tracer, but that’s not the point.

ofc doesn’t matter the same as your reply makes no sense.

You may not agree, but I am telling you flat out her survival rate is nearly double the average DPS, and it’s attributed to her Coach Gun by coaches. Ask them. She doesn’t have to continually move, that’s not the point.

I listed 10 (of 17) who are unquestionably more mobile. I know some would argue that even Junkrat should be there which is 11 which fair because he is strictly more mobile. When you are no doubt one of the bottom 6 (or lowest 1/3) at best you are one of the least mobile.

Again, she’s still far from static. Apparently it helps a good bit for her. I mean you are free to argue this with folks like SVB and the other coaches.

Link me them saying she is one of the most mobile or more mobile than any of the 11 listed. Yes the type of mobility she has is something under half the DPS have, but that does not make her mobile.

Of course coaches rave about the Coach Gun, they were coached to do so by coach Coach the coach coach.

Remember that mobility is op… but also Ana is op but also snipers are op but also Mccree is op but also Roadhog is op but also PharaMercy is op but also orisa is op but also junkrat spam is op but also Doomfist’s punch is op but also Hammond is op but also immortality field is op but also rally is op but also storm arrows is op but also discord is op but also rez is op but also railgun is op but also hitscans are op…