OW2 should rework Echo into a support

Come on developers, I’m sure you’re capable of figuring out how to have a cloning character that still supports her team.

Give her a supporting aura while cloned. Or, similar to Ana, let her attacks heal teammates while damaging enemies.

It’s time to let Echo be the character she was meant to be.

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Let’s not rework heroes that don’t need it. Echo’s a pretty balanced hero with a solid playerbase that enjoys her the way she is. Yes it’s unfortunate they opted to move her from support to damage but she’s good the way she is now.

Also, we learnt in the 2nd Art book that she used to be able to attach herself to allies. I’m guessing she was like Yuumi from League.

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You are still mad about this after all this time?

They are not gonna waste time to rework a non probleblem hero. Best to ask for new sup with similar kit.

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Im trying to imagine Echo attaching herself to Hog then just flying up with him lol

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They will have to do something about her ult or else she’s in the must pick tier.

She copies a tank and now your team is ol school Ow. One of the reasons I think going 5 v 5 is a mistake.

It’s going to be painstakingly long to rework everyone on the roster to not be a trainwreck.

LMAO that would be so cool. Imagine a support that could actually lift allies and fly them over to flank. Take notes Blizzard :rofl:

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Dear god, that sounds like a troller’s dream. You thought Mei walling you in spawn was bad? Imagine ulting but then your teammate just grabs hold of you and flies into a pit.

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I expected Echo to be a Support and was dismayed at Echo being a DPS initially. The more I thought about it, the more I realized she probably works better as a DPS.

The logic the dev team had was indicative of relative value, ironically because DPS is overall the weakest, least impacting, it was the least jarring for a team to lose a DPS but gain most often a Tank over losing a Support when Echo ults. From this perspective, it just plain makes more sense.

It’s looking more and more like Sym may be forced into the Healer role, which means she will likely do what you want, but she will be forced to perpetual F-tier.

Well of course you’d have to accept the flight. Though to be honest with how little the average player wants to communicate in solo queue, this ability may be mostly useless. Just like Sym’s TP where its really fun with friends or in a coordinated team

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Why would you want a support that isnt a support for good chunks of the game?

Like as a dps she is basically required to use her ult to get kills. Which can be done with almost any hero. Yet as a support swapping onto a rien or dps can screw with your teams synergy.

Even then if echo was a support she most likely wouldnt have been released. As we got a tank and support previously. So it would have still been a another dps. Maybe junker queen.

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I wish :frowning:

I’d argue she does simply because of the massive imbalance that exists on the character select screen.

Heroes have gotten reworked into different roles before, so it’s not unprecedented.

Did you read the OP?

If she clones Rein, she could have an aura that heals, gives shields, grants damage reduction, etc. Maybe the aura could even change based on the character or role she clones. Do you clone Rein and grant your team damage reduction? Or Tracer to give your team a damage boost?

Or maybe her swings damage enemies and heals teammates. Values for both damage and healing could be tweaked as necessary. Maybe she deals full damage to enemies, but only a smaller percentage of that damage if converted into healing for allies.

Viola. You now have a support that remains a support even as she clones. It’s honestly not that hard.

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You’d have to first argue that the imbalance is a problem, because rn it’s really not.

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If you don’t think role imbalance is an issue, I don’t really have anything else to say to you.

Having more character options is not only an advantage within the game itself, but is one of the big reasons why DPS queue times are what they are.

Nah I’d rather not lose one of my mains :skull:

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Advantage for whom? Flex players that can already utilize the wide number of specialist DPS available to them? Because few others are gonna be able to use cloning effectively anyway.

I agree with you that they shouldn’t rework. But this statement is a little funny.

She is one of a few that need some nerfing

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Something funny about this coming from someone with a Symmetra PFP. Scared she’ll be sent to the support factory soon after Echo? Blizz have already tried once… they can try again…

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Good. I want Sym to be a support. Unlike Echo, Sym has very niche and problematic design.

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Take 5 seconds, think outside of yourself and look at what is good for the game.

Having a small support roster is not good for the game.

And making Echo a support would go a long way in mending some of the bad faith the support community harbors.

But if you keep this selfish stance, don’t be surprised when support becomes your new bottle neck and queue times remain high or go higher.

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