[OW2] How Viable would D.va be?

If she got these buffs

D.va

  • Head hitbox size reduced 40%
  • Delay between DM usage reduced to 0.5sec, down from 1.0sec
  • Primary Fire movement penalty reduced to 30%, down from 40%
  • Defence Matrix range increased to 15m, up from 10m.

Here’s a quick visual of the head hitbox size changes.

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Extend defense matrix range to 12 meters and I’m in. d.VA has the ability to be everywhere with her boosters, but that 10 meter range is criminally short for defending allies.

Eh, why not just go for 15m, then see what we get.

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Tbh not too sure it would be enough. D.va is an amazing 2nd tank due to her limited yet strong protection.

But as a single tank she doesn’t have the self reliant to survive… Not enough damage to pressure most tanks (she has super high damage but very high spread), hit box in a problematic part of her body & she can’t really force people to respect her protection.

Her main focus is high damage big characters with low mobility who already see 0 play (Bastion,Junkrat,Torb etc…).

So I can’t really see her being viable in ow2 unless her defense matrix becomes as common as a shield or she gets some higher aoe pressure in order to be respected.

There, I fixed it for you :wink:

I would also give her a 50% faster ult charge rate when out of mech to minimize her downtime, 90% of the time killing the mech = killing d.va so there should be no reason for her to stay out of mech for as long as she does currently.

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D.va didn’t really feel unviable as she was in the 2nd beta, so I don’t think she’s far off from being good/decent. Plus, her matchup agaibst JQueen is horrible, so that definitely skewed with how viable she seemed pretty hard.

Keep saying D.va is weak. Two things I want when OW 2 releases:

  1. broken D.va
  2. a scuba diver skin for my D.va where the mech is a giant shark
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There’s a good chance you might be right.

I just don’t see any reason to pick her over Winston,ball or Zarya…

If you want dive, go for a dive tank that can survive on its own only needing the help with healing and damage like Winston & Hammond and if you want to peel then Zarya is the #1 enabler for solo dps.

D.va just doesn’t contribute anything special for the job of the solo tank…

I hope they turn your visual into a deployable bubble shield for her

She needs a mobility buff if she is going to solo tank. Right now she is fine as a bodyguard and chasing down kills with another tank taking the lead, but that aint happening in OW2.

I think the 3 second booster blizzard played around with for a week would be right in line.

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Ow1 dva players are so used to their hero being amazing and or borderline overtuned that they won’t settle for anything less.
There are worse heroes in ow2 and ow1 than ow2 dva that deserve to be buffed before she does.
Let the dva players experience the pain.

Which Tank, aside from Hog, is worse than D.va in OW2?

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Who said tanks? There’s worse support heroes and dps heroes than tank dva rn.
Dva players will campaign for giga buffs until she’s borderline overtuned again and it’s gonna be insufferable.

She just needs her head hitbox reduced. It makes a way bigger difference than you think.

D.va’s defense matrix will always be a reason to pick her, it’s a uniquely powerful move matched only by Sigma’s grasp, but that ability is tiny and on a cooldown so it’s not nearly as powerful individually

Combine that with her mobility and it makes her both unique and worthwhile. Winston is the only other dive tank that can protect like D.va can, but it’s like comparing Rein to Orisa in OW1. Matrix is much more flexible than Winston’s bubble, so it makes her good in situations where Winston may not be.

The thing is, Matrix is mostly useful as a secondary tool to defend from the less common yet more powerful attacks such as ultimates or Moira’s orb.

Unless you go for a dive and then it’s an engagement tool - in brawl comps it’s a help not the main tool so I struggle to see her used for that at least.

As for diving, the game just doesn’t have enough situations where matrix do more as it’s less common and more situational. Winston gets to protect really well while also doing damage but D.va doesn’t really have a situation where her matrix outshines Winston too much…

Overall, what’s the benefit of blocking for less time but higher damage if you don’t have the 2nd tank that fills the time in-between giving you a chance to attack without a risk for your life.

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This is definitely great, but she’s still going to melt to oblivion in 5v5 and be pretty much useless. Her kit is straight up meant for being a supportive offtank to assist the main tank and contest high ground for short periods of time. She can’t solo dive. She’s a in our character with abysmal effectiveness range and a solo Dm is stupidly easy to play around. It’s not an ability meant for a solo tank. Nothing short of a rework is going to fix her issues with out making her ridiculously op.

I’d start with the first and see where we land. Wouldn’t want another Zen situation on our hands.

The way they changed the cooldown and recharge rate made matrix feel way better, it’s very useful at blocking high bursts of damage pretty frequently. It won’t block for as long as Winston’s bubble if there isn’t an extremely large amount of damage flying at you, but the ability to flash it on and off frequently gives it a niche.

Defense matrix is much more reliable for saving people from explosive spam like from Junkrat and Pharah, or Hanzo’s storm arrows. It’s also able to save people from Hog’s hooks more often as well as Hog’s ultimate or any ultimate that is very high damage shots like McCrack, Sojourn, Pharah, maybe even Bastion still since his shots can be blocked from above. The nature of infinite damage negation for a time limit will always have a niche. It’s also the only real way to stop the likes of Mei or Zarya if they use their ultimates.

Then there’s D.va’s ultimate. It’s always very dangerous, but can be relatively easy to negate with a barrier. The way tanks have changed makes it so that Rein, Winston, and Sigma are the only wholly reliable ways to stuff a D.va ult. All of the tanks can survive it, but most of them can’t reliably protect their team from it. Zarya is a notable example of this. Since her bubbles share a cooldown now, if D.va waits for one or both to get burned then Zarya is gonna be really pressured by a D.va ultimate and will have to choose between herself or a teammate. If she chooses herself, then D.va could have an oppurtunity to hit her with a mech call afterwards and kill her anyways.

As for general gameplay, I still equate D.va to Doomfist. If Doomfist can work as a tank damage wise, then D.va can too. Their survivability isn’t that different from each other overall, and their weapons definitely aren’t that different.