I know this topic has been brought through the ringer multiple times but it really does urk me with the thought that if OW2 doesnt remove 2-2-2 or fix the queue times ((Competitively)) The game is as good as dead and it really does upset me, As someone who has been GM on multiple accounts (xbox and pc) through out the years, id hate to see a game i once played every single day not capture the players back that it lost because of this system. when i made this new account i played for fun didnt want to climb too high cuz i understood if i did it would mean having to go through 30 to hour long queue time for DPS. Im really hoping they bring up this issue again soon with OW2 cuz i genuinely love this game so much and want it to flourish competitively as it once did before
I wouldn’t worry about it, we still have over a year of this stale maintainence before we need to worry about the average player refusing to return because they don’t want to wait 10 minutes for a game.
im playing on my friends account right now which is gold might i add and EVEN WITH the tickets dps games are still taking 10 to 15 minutes too get into, im sorry but thats just a ridiculous amount of time to wait for a game that wont even last half of that
You are preaching to the choir. I was a dps one trick and converted to a humble flex because I have enough free time to post 20k times on a forum but not enough to wait those outrageous queues.
I’d still bet money that OW2 brings 1-3-2. Because, what really have they done to make more people want to tank? Nothing. You could say they only ever make people want to tank less, and have sunk to bribes to fill out the ranks.
If they just cut out half the tank slots, they probably don’t need to bother with priority pass system and then they can stop trying and failing to balance barriers and tanks between each other. I’m sure they’ll still suck at balancing one tank, but it’s a lot less ways for them to suck.
Dont get me wrong i love flexing mainly tank but being forced to play with only 4 people most the time because none of us want to wait that long just sucks, and i guess it could be slightly my fault for climbing with tracer, mccree but how on earth was i ever supposed to know this would happen lmao
I hope they bring a polished 1-3-2 for queue times. It would bring a lot of people from fps.
That would be funny.
222, for obvious reasons, isn’t going anywhere and there’s really not much else the devs can do to fix players’ attitudes, so unless OW2 is a huge success, it’s going to be more of the same.
Of course, if you don’t have the patience to wait, OQ is here for you.
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Don’t correlate tbh.
Whenever OW2 is actually released, logically speaking you wouldn’t have high DPS queues cause the players who had lost interest for whatever reason may return with the release of OW2. Of course this is all happen stance and it’s been proven time and time again that majority of this game is DPS ruled. (Unfortunately)
But I’d like to believe whenever OW2 does get released we’ll hopefully see a rise in more Tank and Support players.
The game is as good as dead now IMHO, with the content drought we’ve had for all 2020 and seemingly will have for all of 2021 as well. Your still playing it seems, so does it actually matter? 
Well I suppose you could be playing the other modes beside ranked… 
But meh, I see very little reason besides the DPS queue to remove 2 - 2 - 2 considering how long it took for them to add it to the game in first place.
Oh and for all those mentioning 1 - 3 - 2 
They HAVE to balance role queue so that all 3 roles take equal time.
I do not want to wait 12-25 minutes for DPS queue’s and only 15 seconds for support.
But I do actually want to wait 10 seconds to get into a match… if I had to wait equal time for dps, I would play dps?
Balance the game around all 3 roles to be equal.
I’d play DPS more if i didn’t have to wait so long between matches.
If i have 45 minuter to play… I’d like to play more then one game at night.
That is what open queue is for, silly.
not at all
there have been multiple signs that the devs have been looking for ways to rid the game of 222, including all the work they’ve had to do to bandaid 222 as well as experiments with other arrangements like 132
if and when the devs decide to get 222 out of the game, it will happen
this statement implies that role-less queue games are an equivalent replacement for 222 mode games, but putting aside the queuing, there are multiple differences between 222 and role-less queue game modes such that the one is not an equivalent substitute for the other.
This doesnt even include the fact that there is no role-less queue QP game mode at this time on the main game selection menu
System is lost because of nobody wanting to play maintank in particular, or tank in most situations. So how do u propose this gets changed?
Trying to force an MMO logic into an FPS game reduces so much strategy more so in professional play.
Allowing players to pick and change according to whats needed with a full roster is what makes a game thrive.
well, they could start by buffing dva and hog. super popular tanks that people actually want to play.
hmm lets see. i dont want to solo tank so 1/3/2 is out.
i also dont want to solo tank so hammond the fat dps needs to go.
undo the boop rework. leave reins buff so he is playable on boop maps.
delete brig, doomfist, and hammond, the juggle has to go.
buff lucio for that good rein feeling of old.
lower aoe healing a tad so winny dva dive is possible. this will probably also cost bap lamp.
sig rework into a balanced off tank with 400-500 shield health and a slower recharge rate.
id like to point out that with 2-2-2, there just hasnt been a stable meta where 2 out of 3 off tanks were viable, even on KoH. that is how bad balance has been.
I feel like the best fix for a lot of the issues that people seem to have with current OW would be to add a 7th player to each team making the comp 2-3-2. The current game isn’t built to accommodate this, but in creating OW2 the game could be adjusted in that manner.
A short term fix would be to add more characters in the tank and support roles. Especially if they have some depth to them. It would also help if there weren’t nerf (whichever tank or support) threads everywhere that make the two roles unattractive. (the same could be said for nerf dps threads too, but people want to play that role.)
The second Hog was meta the tears started crashing around me…
But yeah, I vaguely agree that balancing the game around heroes people actually want to play would probably be more effective than trying to coerce people into playing heroes they have no interest in.