OW should have bans

But it wont, because the devs want a game where a few heroes dominate and hero/comp diversity is bad.

If bans existed in OW, it would remove the wool over the playerbase that Widow and Tracer are fine.

Just like in Rivals where Hawkeye and Hela are insanely overpowered and make every match not only unfair but also unfun and so get banned, the ability to ban in OW would not only improve comp diversity but also point directly at what is too strong (and what isnt).

The idea of high ranks without Tracer/Widow would actually make me want to play it again, ngl

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No we do not need that again

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I donā€™t think we need bans. Because then some of us would justā€¦ Never get to play our mains because whatever knuckleheads got mercā€™d by one or who consider it cancer would instaban it. Iā€™d never get to play Hoggert or Mango. Because Iā€™m one of maybe ten people who like them.

Yes, some characters are inherently (or just simply by how the game has been patched and changed, not necessarily inherently) cancer. Doomfist is one of the two characters I actually call cancer, despite being a Mauga main. Yes yes, insert laughing here. But the point is that while I would rather Fisty be absolute garbage or just not exist, his mainsā€¦ Doā€¦ Deserve someā€¦ Oh God I canā€™tā€¦ Kind of happinessā€¦

I think I just threw up in my mouth typing that. Eurgh.

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It never happened a first time.

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they did exist, and were promptly removed.

they are fine, stop running in a straight line, listen to the sounds coming through your headset, and open your eyes

We never had player bans.

Blizz choosing themselves doesnt count.

Consider: if your main gets universally banned by other players then its a broken hero that ruins games.

Player bans, not corporate dictated meta enforcing like what Blizz did.

Nice gaslighting.

I love yā€™all claiming that Widow/Tracer are easy to counterplay while also dominating the highest ranks and pro-play.

Come back when you have actual arguments.

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Until support role doesnĀ“t have the same amount of heroes as DPS role - nope.

1 ban per team should be fine. Just like Rivals.

You cant ban a whole role, not that it would be productive to anything. I fully predict that if players were allowed to ban, then the most banned heroes would be DPS heroes.

If player bans were allowed, I predict that Widow and Tracer would be the most banned heroes above Diamond. Below that, Soldier and Ashe.

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Consider:

People hate things that they hate for whatever reason. I guarantee that a majority of my friends would instaban Symm because they think sheā€™s OP.

I think sheā€™s busted in the opposite way, in that she barely functions, but people are stupid.

Iā€™d rather let people play their favorite or main character.

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I mean if they want to waste their ban on a bad and easy to kill hero, sure go ahead.

But the higher you go, the more people will just bad whatever is OP.

I dont. And I dont think anyone would really ban Sym in comp lol

So I remain thinking that bans in comp would simply be an overall improvement and unmasking of OWā€™s stale DPS meta.

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Agree to disagree, but Iā€™m glad you clarified comp. Also, not for console. No bans for us. As long as itā€™s not in QP, I guess I could tolerate it.

Iā€™d stop playing comp permanently or semi - permanently, but at least it wouldnā€™t make me uninstall the game like adding them in QP would.

No, I remember hero bans from OW1. I know there was less supports, than now, but I felt like I was out of options every single time. When one of your mains is taken and other banned and you main 3 out of 5 heroes (which was the whole rooster back than I think) - you are screwed.
Now I know there is much more options in support rooster and I also main more heroes, but itĀ“s stil something that would caused me not to play for the week or two as back than. Specialy, when game feels much more like brawl and countering stuff to survive is essential for support.

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again? the game never had a real banning system, it had blizzardā€™s god awful attempt at instituting something similar with their ā€œban of the weekā€ which was completely contrived and arbitrary

this game 1000% needs a real banning system

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There were no hero bans in playerā€™s hands in OW1. What Blizz did was them choosing heroes and maps and banning them.

But also your general idea that players would ban out an entire role is just weird. No one is going to waste a ban slot just to ban out Moira or most supports, much less in high ranks.

Despite all the weirdos that hate supports, people who actually play the game arent likeā€¦ caustically hateful of supports. Specially when its group banning.

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but you arent in pro play, so why would that matter?

Maybe I donĀ“t get youā€¦you mean, players would choose, who to ban?
Even worse!

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First, I said high ranks and pro-play. I was a masters player. I stopped playing comp because I am tired of Blizzā€™ constant meta enforcing and micromanaging of who is allowed to be good in the DPS role. My main has been reduced to a TP bot because god forbid a DPS that isnt a popular hitscanflanker is not trash.

Second, everything trickles down. One of the reasons why people left OW1 in droves is that their heroes were endlessly nerfed for pro-play or high ranks ā€˜ā€˜crimesā€™ā€™ (aka being used against meta threats). So many bad changes have been done to make status quo abusers in high ranks and pro-play safer, while the playerbase gets gaslighted.

Yes, and I dont see any reason why it would be bad.

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meaning your no longer in a ā€˜higherā€™ rank

literally no one asked

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Oh I see, you are just a clown. Blocked.

Players are toxic cowards. They leave any game, that wonĀ“t go by their plans or if someone picks something they hate - my friend is a Widow main. I can see him having a hard time to ever play his main, if this was a thing.