Overwatch Problem: Solved

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I think I finally figured out why Overwatch has lost its magic and why every single patch I hate the game a little more. After watching IDDQD talk to a dev, I realized something:

The game I want Overwatch to be and become is clearly NOT the same game Blizzard wants Overwatch to be and become.

The game doesn’t “belong to the community” at all. Those are just some nice PR words to make us feel special. The only thing that matters is the OWL and high end play.

The game is no longer for us. I think its just that simple. The game isn’t about fun or being a game anymore. Its about being a high end money making sport.

Take Mercy for example. Apparently, Mercy is more viable than ever because there are more heroes she can be a damage boost bot on. Guys! FUN! Isnt that fun!?! Weeee! Damage boooooost!

Im sorry to tell you, but the only person that gets fun out of that is the Ashe. Its more like Mercy is a buff to Ashe, not the other way around.

…but Mercy is in a great spot apparently. I dont agree with that at all, but who cares? Mercy has had the fun sucked right out of her.

If I were to suggest any small change to Mercy, especially after the recent armor nerf changes and the 50hps change, It would be:

  • that Mercys beam should NEVER break while activating Valk or by deciding to Res someone

I mean, Mercy is suppose to be all about consistent, reliable healing right? Except not when you use other parts of your kit?

  • Res should be instant cast during Valk. They never tried 1 instant cast of Res during Valk did they? I honestly dont remember because there have been so many changes

He also said that its getting harder to create new heroes because they dont want any to overlap which… just kinda blows my mind. I mean, good luck creating a new anchor tank that doesn’t use some sort of barrier similar to Rein. Hammond was a real success. LOL

Speaking of Rein, apparently he is in a really great spot to. No need to change anything on him… but lets buff Winston damage against armor next patch because that is certainly more important than anything else.

I dont understand why I keep holding on and hoping that there will be good changes/news coming down the pipe for this game. Everything is “top secret” and we are just left in the dark with no clue what they are thinking except for when a change goes to PTR and then we are all like, wth is this? dont do this! and then they do it anyway.

A game dev roadmap which clearly lays out everything they are working on would be better for everyone.

It bothers me that they think having a hero like Bastion is okay balance wise because he is OPAF in low ranks and borderline useless in top tier. Thats like an okay thing to them. Or Widow being OPAF in top tier and trash at low ranks.

This just blows my mind. Sure there is something to be said for skill, but IMO, that is just broken hero design when not all skill levels can get something out of a hero so you just leave them in that state. This whole “niche” hero thing is by far the dumbest thing Ive ever seen in a video game.

I mean, half the cast has had garbo pick rates for so long and its just kinda like “meh”, its fine.

I think Im just ranting at this point, so Im going to stop. What do you think?

(also I will be sad if GreyFalcon isn’t the first to reply to me)

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Idk what you wrote I’m only replying so that GreyFalcon can’t be the first.

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You caught on, welcome to the club, weve known this since season 1 of OWL started

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The PTR is useless, every time a big change has been dropped and the community said that it was bad they didn’t care and then that bad big change end up in the normal servers and THEN they do something with it. What’s the point of having an specific server for the community to play with the new changes so they can give feedback if you’re not going to listen to it?. Honestly I love this game but it makes me feel sad that they treat their community like this just because OWL gives more money.

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I got this game because it was marketed to us casuals with heroes like Torb and Symmetra. It was supposed to be a laid back kind of fps with moba like elements. I like the objectives in HotS so wen I heard that it was going to be in Overwatch, along with the rest that you don’t have to be good with aim, I was interested. When they said that there would be lore with it, knowing blizzard lore I was sold. And I don’t like shooters.

But now it’s obviously becoming more geared towards pro players. They haven’t updated the lore beyond cinematics for almost a year. Heroes are becoming more and more aim centric because “it’s an FPS”.

I want to love this game like I used to. But I’m just not having fun anymore. Games are stressful. I don’t play games for stress. I play multiplayer games for friendly competition. That’s why I stick with QP. I like winning, and I enjoy a good competition, but I don’t want my life ruled by it.

They’re losing their core playerbase because they’re making design decisions that go against what the core playerbase wants. they want fun. Not reworks, not redesigns that don’t need it. Game modes, pve events like Archives, maybe even make a competitive mystery heroes.

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:frowning:

I guess I have always known, but hoped it would get better

Yea, Ive just given up actually providing any feedback on the PTR

Same here. I feel you. Its just not fun anymore.

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Corporate world is fully of double talk, PR spin.
Politics too.

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I fell for it.

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Here are YOUR opinions. NOT the whole community.
A lot of people like the new Mercy, a lot of people like the changes done to the game.

Was Hammond ever supposed to be a anchor tank?

All =/= a few.

Except for every person who keeps complaining about spoilers before events…

Name a single shooter game where some weapons are not more useful than others. A single one.

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We all have, but what’s important is we learn from it.
It eventually just gets to a point where you roll your eyes at it all.
I used to get upset about it, because I felt they were insulting my intelligence thinking I didn’t know they were trying to manipulate… but now I just roll my eyes at all the PR spin, it’s so stupid that it’s not worth caring about.

In some ways, I feel really bad for those people that have to participate in the PR spin. Imagine having to go to customers ( or constituents) and lie, or at the very least tell them half truths just to keep them loyal.

Like I said too, politics is just as bad.

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No Man’s Sky comes to mind…
At least that game’s playable now.

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PLAT border mercy main complaining about OW catering only for PR and OWL. When rez is still a thing in this game when majority of viewer, casters and PRO players have always asked to remove that ability from the game.

you want dev to inform you immediately after they think of a new patch??? they are literally letting u try out in PTR before coming to live servers. Did u even think before writing that???

What do u want??? widow to have aim assisst?? give her smg gun a damage equal to that of soldier? if a character is strong at low rank, it gets broken and OPAF in high rank.

if half the cast have low skill ceiling then it should have a garbo pick rates and garbo win rates. Having a garbo character in meta is what makes a game garbo.

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Well them maybe I am speaking for those that dont like the changes. Just because you like them doesn’t mean everyone does.

He was suppose to be dive anchor tank. Another Winston if you will.

So what. People will always complain.

Thats not the point. The point is that the devs try to make things better. BF5 started out terrible and they are really listening to the community and trying to make the game better. Patch every few weeks and great open communication with the community.

1st of all. I have over 1600+ hours put into Overwatch. PTR, PC and console. I liked the game so much I bought it for PC and console.

2nd, Im not a “Mercy main”. I am a support player who likes to flex to tank. Mercy is always the most played because I dont know if you were around, but there was a time when Mercy was the only healer you could play in this game. Lasted for about a year. Mercy meta? Ever heard of it? You wanted to play any other healer and people would say you were throwing. Lucio/Moira are my fav healers to play if you must know, since that has so much to do with the conversation.

No. Its called a roadmap. Clearly youve never seen such a thing. Let me enlighten you.

https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/eacom/images/2018/10/bfv-tides-of-war-roadmap-1920.jpg.adapt.crop16x9.1455w.jpg

I just can’t even with this

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That is true.
And as you know, the opposite is also true.

The community isn’t a large group of players who all agree on everything.

But he is another Winston?
That’s literally how he works best.
Yes, he is more difficult to play than Winston, but as long as the player is skilled enough he will get more value from Hammond than Winston.

If people will always complain, why listen to your complaints over theirs?

That’s exactly what the overwatch devs are doing.

Just like the overwatch devs.

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i am very sorry, but it never does get better. All we can do is try to stand it

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why can’t handle truth?? characters like mercy, moira, reaper, brig, torb, sym should NEVER be in meta.

your most played character is MERCY so YES you are a mercy main.

It lasted for about 6 months btw. And, yes that was one of the worst period of this game. The character was so broken that players were “FORCED” to play it. A Prime example of why garbo characters like mercy should never be buffed to the point that it out-signs other support characters like ana which actually requires high skill.

we are talking about hero balances here not some game modes about to be added. Anyway if u had any common sense, ow does have a similar thing. Something new is always there during any game convention blizzard is included in (gamescom, blizzcon and others)

Finally, all u mercy mains crying about mercy not being in good state are just bad players. You dont want mercy to be viable or anything, all of u just want mercy to be OP that it out shines other supports. Mercy is a garbo character that requires very low skill, hence it is in a good state, personally i think its still too OP with rez.

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Oh, so you’d be cool with mass rez reverted then? I mean, Mercy was trash tier with it, which as you said is where you like her to be.

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Im sorry I stopped reading when i saw the whole section of “Mercy is ignoredREEEEEEEE” , its just … man .

Can we please stop going over and over and over with the same 3 topics and different wording about mercy ?
#revertmercy
#wearebeingignored
#valksucks

Yeah, i know the whole post its not only about that but boy it makes a gazillion people roll their eyes see the same rant about mercy over and over and over again.

The very day any player becomes aware that this is a game with 29 tools to win a game and a player IS NOT the hero they play … balancing and general perspective over changes in the game become SO MUCH easier to handle and understand.

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Your reply proves my point that a certain forum poster just makes it harder for anyone else to have any discussions about Mercy. This “forum raid” was toxic and some people (like me) were/are against her.

I dont know where you get that I am a “mercy main” who wants a “revert” but again, this is just how toxic the whole thing has become now. Thanks for that Rose.

I brought up Mercy because the dev was talking about her in the interview with IDDQD. Not because of forum trolls who go on about megathreads and reverts.

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Agreed. Those “players” should have been banned from the forum long ago. People have been banned for less.

Never said you were a mercy main so … i dont know where did you get that from pal and regarding the revert :

Yep, thats a revert mate. That happened and they removed it and i must say it was a good decision because res is REALLY impactful and having someone doing it instantly was BS.

Saw that interview and i have to agree with the Dev to some extent. Mercy gameplay at gold is really really not the same as a GM like Aspen for example. The damage boost part is REALLY noticeable.

But yeah, we are pretty burned out about “Reverts” so anything that smells like fire, gets tossed. Sorry if my reply was blunt to you mate but its really really really really really insane the spam we are seeing on “Latest”.

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