Hey i am always looking for things to learn and i would like to know if there are some good coaching channels on youtube. I used to watch Iostux but his is not posting reviews so often. Recently i discovered this guy Temporal:
He is really great and he is doing reviews frequently and i can only suggest anyone in lower ranks to watch his stuff.
Are there any other good coaching channels worth watching?
Stylosa has done vod reviews consistently, for forever. I donāt feel like his analysis is always entirely on point and he tends to give the same advice often so somewhat diminishing returns after youāve seen a dozen or so reviews.
I really like Jayneās reviews/coaching, but he doesnāt do them that often (or doesnāt export them from twitch to Youtube, which to me is effectively the same thing because Iām not digging through Twitch vods.)
Some of the best teaching content Iāve seen is in his coaching sessions though. Because he originally does them live on Twitch heās often able to interact directly with the player, which even though the game is replay, still adds a lot compared to a straight vod review. (Also more than that in some cases, e.g. the one where he teaches the player the mechanics of how to do good D.Va bombs and Hog hooks.)
Lol. He does do a fair bit of that, but it does effectively point out the poor plays. And he usually has a suggestion after heās done laughing, even if itās one of the old chestnuts of ātake the high groundā or āplay with your teamā.
Stylosa is not doing coaching I would be interested in. The way of how he is doing coaching is more for fun content than actual coaching. Yeah some tip here and there but nothing i could learn there really.
Just watch stylosa and then try Temporal or Iostux, its completely something else.
I am personally still like a Number 1 Jayne fan when it comes to coaching and I recently subscribed to Temporal as well. I only discovered him on the forums and have watched almost all of his coaching videos by now
All? LOL I do it too but there is a lot so it will take some time. I liked watching jayne but he stopped with coaching content for a long time so i moved on and recently i saw him streaming different game i believe, is he back to coaching again?
Not all, hence why I said almost all Been putting his vids on when I am working and having it run in the background. I also come back to some vids after my shift is over to recalibrate.
As far as Jayne goes, he does not post a lot on Yoututbe anymore. Maybe he posts more on Discord? I dunno.
His last vid was like a month ago or so. But I still always come back to his Vodās and his tournaments where he puts like one GM into Gold or one Gold into GM and stuff like that.
The thing about Jayne is, hence why I like him so much, he teaches you even if he did not mean to
My point about Jayne is, does not matter when a certain video about x,y,z was posted. Pre or after certain nerfs, the basics of it still remains. And the basics of it helps me, personally, a lot.
I know, hence why I said the basics of it still matter.
Like for example, no matter how much you nerf or buff Zarya (just an example) the video from 2018, while you are watching it in 2021, about bubble management is, imo, still valuable.
I do have to wonder If high ELO players are disconnected from low ELO players. In the higher elos Iām pretty sure most DPS are good in the lower elos Itās a hit or miss. As a brig player Iām well aware that packs are better spent on DPS players, however theyāre also harder to heal which is surprising because brig packs auto lock. But the fact is low elo DPS players donāt seem to be all that aware of their support.
By default supports have a better team awareness because weāre obligated to, and itās not that tanks have better awareness than DPS players Itās just that by default theyāre usually in front and luckily for them they donāt need as much awareness as a dps players because theyāre high health pool and survival mechanisms make them āmore likely to survive any mistakes that mould instantly delete the DPS player. At lower eloās tanks can afford to make a lot of dumb mistakes, DPS players cannot.
A DPS player can sometimes do things and make it difficult. Iāve had to chase soldier 76 through corridors as he spams I need healing as he sprints away from me, cutting corners then make healing impossible only to either lose him or finally catch up to him as heās found the health pack he was looking for. And thereās jumping genjiās which makes Annaās job ridiculous. Then thereās the DPS players that decide to take matters into their own hands and stand in between me and the tank believing that this will help, and maybe you would if I were a Moira but Iām Brig and by dancing around the tank the much larger tank
Iāll be lucky if I didnāt waste all three trying to heal him and worst case scenario they all went to the full health tank in the attempt. You could wonder why I didnāt just move to the side or try to position myself to heal them better its probably because thereās something going on which means I have to get this done quickly or else I get killed. Then thereās LOS Just probably the number one reason most they donāt get healed, and since not everyone uses voice chat itās kind of a difficult thing to communicate there is no āyouāre out of my LOS shortcutā In which case Iām not sure what theyāre thinking. I wouldnāt mind going up to them if there is time but more often than not there isnāt Itās often easier for them to peek out than for me to climb a bunch of stairs. Then thereās the ones that just keep dying so quickly or donāt pull out of engagements while asking for healing that you canāt really do nothing about.
It is unfortunate because tanks donāt have to do or think about many of these points. But a lot more is required in terms of awareness from a DPS player If they want to effectively be healed. Which is why I wonder if thereās a disconnect from higher elo coaches. Iām pretty sure in their games the DPS players largely donāt have, Even in the lower elbows there are some DPS players who donāt have this problem. Then again in the team game itās so hard to determine who actually is messing up everything seems to be caused by another thing that you could potentially blame anyone.
They clearly are. A lot of tips/coaching content is entirely useless, since it contains suggestions like ācoordinate with your teamā or specific types of coordination like āask your zarya for a bubbleā, āask your team to peek youā (as mercy, so you donāt plummet to your death at certain points).
Frankly speaking, simply getting the team to regroup as six before re-engaging the enemy is too much of an ask much of the time.
One of the things I like(d) about Jayne though was that his ladder coaching was always (or at least for Plat and below) tuned to the idea that your teammates canāt be counted on, at all. (Though frankly, the notion that everyone up through plat is just as dumb as Bronze, just with better mechanics is a bit of a bleak one.)
This is not true. Maybe some are disconected. But a lot of them isnt. I watch Iostux and now temporal and they watched enough of low ranks to know what to tell players who are trying to climb from there. And they have results. I for example played in low ranks also so when i do review i know what to tell players to help them.
I havenāt watched Iostux, but Temporal does seem decent, and then of course thereās Jayne (if he ever copies his sessions to youtube againā¦). Thatās not āa lot of themā, thatās 3, one of whom may not even be active anymore, that weāve managed to name in a topic dedicated to naming themā¦
(Stylosa I donāt really count. He can point out mistakes and give some general advice, of course, or I wouldnāt have even brought him up earlier, but he definitely qualifies in my mind as āout of touchā with low Elo.)