Overwatch 2 - Everything Bad In Here - Lets see?

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Ok so the game is basically in probably the worst state I have ever seen it.

I cannot believe that someone designed Push, it is quite frankly dogsh… game mode, zero fun to watch and zero fun to play.

The balance of characters in Overwatch is always shocking but the fact you just keep getting it wrong season after season, bringing out a new game and your team still struggles to get it right… no wonder half your staff team move on.

Every promise you make to your audience you break, you have literally broken all of them. Smurfs… still in game and costs a few cents to confirm a new account. Or if you remove mobile number from account, just attach onto another one.

Horrible battlepass with piecemeal battlepass, expensive cosmetics which are quite frankly a shadow of the work Blizzard use to put out as skins.

The garbage matchmaking which takes place in both Competitive (lol if you can even call it that, with hidden ranks and zero accountability for the rollfest you make) and quickplay is identically bad, apart from you queue into games that have 10 seconds left and already lost.

There are so many things wrong with Overwatch, I struggle to think of good things anymore. Your team meetings must be depressing, because even when you think you have it right… your audience say it is wrong.

I think Overwatch 2 is like Transformers, the first came out and it was incredible and really showed how amazing Transformers could be… then you just steadily got worse, worse and worse.

Now we have ended up here with a game which is 20k viewers on Twitch, same hardcore base of streamers on it and people who will only play when a new hero comes out then realise they are poorly balanced by being either garbage tier or completely overpowered. Then we watch you for an season trying to balance said character into the already unbalanced game.

Oh and that new Antarctic set of maps is utter pap too :slight_smile:

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When did you start playing? A week ago?

The game has been in worse states plenty of times before. Goats, brig 1.0, double shield, etc. It is far from the worst now.

Wow, that’s the exact same thing I thought about 2CP. Enjoying push wayyy more, at least there’s something happening other than 2 teams passively staring at each other in a choke point.

The balance is actually the opposite of what you claim. The roster is in one of the best states ever. You can run extremely varied comps and be successful unlike the hard metas that plagued OW1.

This one I will give you, the MM is utter garbage and single handedly ruins what is otherwise a great experience.

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GOATS was never a problem in the game per se

it was only ever a problem in OWL where it led to lower ticket sales

That aside, the game is imo in a pretty bad state right now, what with it being a pay to win game, 5v5 being imo a far less enjoyable experience, and of course for me personally the Mercy nerf that has gutted her

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Its not. The current state is more balanced than OW1 ever was. Thats why we got not really a mid season patch. The ONLY problem is currently the match making and the long term progression (that they are both working on).

If you think the game is at the worst state ever… I would recommend to switch games, because you are dead wrong here. Currently, you can play every single hero if you like. Yes there is a meta, but there is always one.

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I’m pretty sure september 2021 was a lot better than this

I think every hero was fun and viable except for like bastion

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So no goats was played in the higher ranks, not as dominate as it was in OWL but it was played.

Be it that their were balancing issues that bleed off from goats such as soldier, cassidy, mei, doom and more getting really overturned to counter act these comps. Which did allow more play in the higher ranks, but reeked havoc in anything below Masters.

Mei’s OP state also what lead people to forming the original double shield format. Once 2-2-2 was implemented. As it was the only comp that could really handle her consistently once you couldn’t cycle through ults to avoid her.

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The best time for OW1 balance was at the end of it (last 6 month of OW1). And even then Mei, Sym, Bastion, Torb, Sombra and a few other where almost troll picks.

In S3 of OW2? Maybe Sombra is a bit on the weak side with Roadhog, but both getting reworks in S4 or S5.

So yeah. I would say that the current state is better than OW1 ever was.

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Played? Yes

A problem? No

imo, the gane was in its best state of balance in the days just prior to 222 being inflicted upon us

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their was a second half to that post, you should read.

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I read the post in its entirety

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  1. Push is alright, it needs some fixes so it can be a little bit less than a back and forth
  2. the balance of the characters currently is weird, its not as broken as its ever been though
  3. yes they broke alot of promises, i agree with you on that
  4. battlepasses i think are fine, its consistant at least, though the expensive cosemetics are definitely a problem that wouldnt be to hard to fix
  5. well you can either have 5-10 minute que times or garbage matchmaking, they tried the 5-10 minute que times in overwatch 1 and everyone got angry so no way to appease everyone on that.
  6. i love the Antarctic maps but that’s just my opinion
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Then you would know I agreed with that statement and pointed out the issue was more so the counter balances made because of goats. More so then Goats it’s self.

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The main reason GOATS “wasnt an issue” in ranked game play is because GOATS required more coordination than a team of randoms could provide in ranks lower than diamond

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People were literally switching to a GOATS comp and start to cheese when they’re beginning to lose.
GOATS was THE meta that broke the game for everyone. It was cheesy, boring and annoying, and they took literally months to fix it.

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Very few players even knew what GOATS was

of those who did, fewer still had the communication and coordination skills to pull it off

so…as I stated, GOATS was never a problem in the game per se

and it certaintly did not break the game

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If your talking about just overwatch 2 sure I can understand what you mean but I’d still disagree.

If your talking about all of overwatch…then you think waiting 10 mins to play as dps to shoot double shield is good. Then I’d say your totally bias to the point of untrurth.

Rest of it seems all halfed baked as well. Hope you enjoyed your vent.

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I’d say i found extreme success on mei and sombra, specially sombra

Sure she was too team reliant, but hacking people at the right time was plenty of value, learning her was incredibly rewarding

Current sombra though, she might get value out of herself and that’s it, may be personal taste but i think she’s worse right now, and i find her super braindead and boring i can’t lmao

I’d say bastion rework and sym buffs were held for ow2 for some reason

And… Torb was… I mean he was definitely below average but not necessarily bad IMO, definitely countered by double shield and snipers

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Thats all fine, but this is not even close to that what we have right now. They are all in a lot healthier and stronger place. Even Sombra and she is the weakest DPS right now. In general the heroes are all pretty close to each other.

The new support will 100% change the game again, but thats fine.

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Balance is great for the most part. Matchmaking is fine for me. I only solo queue support in ranked.

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I have to agree with the OP on this one. Sure there have been worse meta or balance issues, matchmaking has always been a punching bag for the forum trolls, and Push vs 2cp are a matter of taste.

But all combined as a total package, I think it’s very hard to argue against this game being in a really poor state, arguably the worst ever. Match quality is very bad, player toxicity is very high, the feeling of a cash grab is more intense, and the primary reason for even having Overwatch 2 is long delayed (PvE where are you?!)

The players having all the fun are mostly the 5 stacks, as they can steamroll through all game modes knowing matchmaker has a high probability of screwing over the enemy team. Oh and the dps smurfs tearing up lower ranks, then starting over when they reach their normal tier.