Overbuff - Hero Rank

Hi guys,

I apologize, I am not in the greatest state of mind and I’m not very perceptive to new things.

Could someone advise me on Overbuff statistics? I main and am interested only in my Moira atm. I know my ‘healing’ is my 10m/avg healing and I understand that 14k is ‘meh’ per 10/min. Short-term I pull 2k a minute, often and my avg is increasing. Great!

What I don’t understand completely is my percentile
HERO RANK 88% <-- Is this absolutely terrible or do these work the opposite of what I am used to, and that being 1% percentile is bad but 100% is good? (crossing my fingers)

88%

HERO RANK

15,582

HERO SCORE

14,440

HEALING

26-15-2

RECORD

3.30

MEDALS

8 hours

TIME PLAYED

63.41%

WIN RATE

19.3%

ON FIRE

Thank you.

I have never understood what the overbuff percentile system is on about… I think it might be ranking you based on your personal stats, but it doesn’t take game difficulty into account so I don’t really see how it’s useful.

An example of this would be overbuff seeing my 68% scoped accuracy on Widow as better than a GM player’s 67% scoped accuracy. I play in Silver games where about half of my shots are on support players standing still in the back line. The GM player has to land crazy grapple shots to get work done because they play against an enemy team that is typically positioned well and straffing.

I think Overbuff is very useful when you are comparing your stats to the average stats in your rank (or the rank you want to get to), but remember that stats are easier to get in lower ranks.

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Percentile basically means this.

Out of 100% let’s say you ranked at the 75th percentile. You are higher rated than 74% of those measured and worse than 24% of that 100% measured.

A higher percentile is better than a lower one.

So you’re saying GM players can’t Aim or what?

I think he’s saying it is harder for GM’s to land shots/keep a high consistent score because the other teams will also be better.

Overbuff’s Hero Score (which is what you’re ranked on) actually heavily takes your SR into consideration.

So when it tells me I am the 88th percentile, does this mean within my SR tier, or range, or all players overall?

All players overall.

Thank you. I assume this will change as/if I climb rank and probably grow lower while competing against better players.

Yeah, I was saying my stats are partially because of personal skill, and partially because there are more mistakes to punish in my games.

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Do you know where this is explained? I’ve been looking on their site and can’t find an explanation anywhere.

My hesitation comes from seeing people in really low ranks confused about why they are ranked well in overbuff but are low ELO. I also had an alt that is ranked higher than I feel is reflective of my skills on Overbuff. I might just not understand what their ranking means though.

I had a really rough look myself and there is a “what things mean” page on Overbuff, but it didn’t really explain what they mean so much as how they work, which I am sure if I spent longer than ten minutes thinking about it I could extract the information and put the bigger picture together… Unfortunately I like discussion more than extracting information first hehe.

For myself I’m in Plat.

If you go to your overbuff page, and look next to your Hero Rank, there is a “Hero Score” number. That number determines your hero rank.

If you hover over the “?” Next to hero score, it explains

“Competitive Hero Score based on skill (SR), games played, win rate, and hero stats”

Might be some confusion here. I’ve read all of the “about” and guidance text on the site. I was wondering if anyone had a more in-depth explanation of how they factor in enemy difficulty. Any analysis of personally stats with comparisons to overbuff rankings would also be cool. Just wondering if anyone had something that would shed some light on the subject.

They factor in enemy difficulty in the “Skill (SR) Section of hero score”. If you’re in GM, you’re vsing harder enemies than in plat, which is why a GM with 50% accuracy would have a higher Hero Score (and thus, higher overbuff ranking) than a plat with 55% accuracy

I appreciate that you are trying to be helpful. This isn’t what I was looking for, but thank you for trying.

What he said sounded sort of like the answer though; it’s already taken into consideration by how difficult things naturally become as you progress; they are interlaced.

I am on the same page about it being considered, but I don’t think it’s considered enough. That results in low ELO players having high ranks in overbuff. When he mentioned that it does take it into consideration heavily, I thought he might have more info on that then was readily available. I did read the informational sections of the site and do a quick google search before asking.

If anyone else does have more info I would be interested in looking at it. Big data analysis is interesting and not something I get to see often enough :blush:

sounds like a broken scoring system.

I mean, it’s not a perfect system, but it’s solid. You can’t say Joe Burrow is the best NFL QB just because he threw 60 TDs in a single season vs college players, while Peyton Manning threw 55 in a single season vs NFL players.

Point being, you HAVE to take a player’s competition into account when scoring things. You’d be much happier beating an OWL team, rather than a silver team you come across in Comp lmao.