im sure im not the first super brain mega genius to point out that tanks balanced for 5v5 kind of sap the enjoyment out of open queue
to be clear, i don’t blame players for swapping to a bunch of tanks to steamroll games, if it works it works
but it’s so incredibly mind-numbingly boring to play against, and i don’t think OQ should just be intrinsically bad because of the inherent superiority of tank stats in ow2
it’s also more of a toxic cesspool than it was in ow1 which is pretty impressive
idk, i mostly just wanted to vent. i don’t know how i would balance it, assuming this incredibly high IQ bulletproof case i’ve built in my head is as unassailable as i think it is, but my idea was diminishing stat returns on tanks where health is lowered by a certain percentage for every tank picked. not enough to make it objectively worse to pick them, but to the point where it feels like the likelihood of victory isn’t so massively skewed in favor of the team that doesn’t pick a single DPS
alternatively, because i really did just want to vent and don’t have a perfect solution in mind, tell me why im wrong and bad
farewell
I don’t think there is a perfect solution. I don’t have a horse in the race since I’m a filthy RQer, but only allowing one tank per team seems like the least bad solution from where I’m sitting. The drawback of it not being “true” OQ any more can be dampened by sticking a pure OQ mode in the Arcade for those that prefer it.
yeah ngl that was my first thought as well but i guess im more sympathetic to stat reductions if only because there are tank dialogue interactions and fun playstyle combinations that i don’t necessarily want to see removed from the game entirely.
like you said, no perfect solution – and im a filthy RQer as well, almost religiously so, but i dip my toes into OQ for the challenges and get tilted after like the tenth slur or so after an already miserable experience of shooting hog for 20 minutes straight
The interaction thing is a good point. Hm. Make it a two tank limit then.
My beef with the idea of penalties like this is how it’s going to feel when another teammate goes Ball or whatever and then tanks (har de har har) existing tanks’ stats. Especially in the middle of a battle where a teammate rageswaps to Hog after getting fragged. But at the same time your idea does a better job preserving the spirit of the mode so I dunno.
I hear ya. In the first week I dipped my toe into Arcade to get that weekly done. I held my nose and won seven OQ games in there but… yeah, I’m not going to bother getting those last ten coins again.
coincidentally a rage swap to hog is literally what pushed me to make this whiny thread
i mean, that and a non-zero amount of alcohol, but that’s neither here nor there
i think a limit on two would be a lot more bearable, at least. seeing 3 tanks just makes me want to, idk, engage in a more productive hobby that doesnt have anything even remotely resembling a bubble. i hate bubbles now, i hate them so so much
god its terrible. idk i just think something about the gamemode makes people so negative and hostile, , at this point i know if i gob ack to it im dumber than a bag of rocks
but i will because RPGs have hardwired me to be a filthy completionist and i neeed that green checkmark
i agree but i think its ok to criticize in the vein of “could this be made more fun” still, esp since its a part of comp and gives you seasonal rewards and challenges and such
yeah but there are degrees of unbalanced, it’s not like the mode can be made infinitely unplayable and blizz gets a forever pass on that when there are feasibly tweaks that can be made to improve the player experience
it doesnt need to be balanced per se but it can be more balanced and fun relative to its current state
They probably don’t care a whole bunch, but they’ve made mode specific changes in the past IIRC. I think they nerfed Sleep Darts in Total Mayhem and Total Mayhem alone so that Ana couldn’t be quite as obnoxious.
idk if that’ll keep with the challenges tho, those are pretty important for ppl looking to lvl up their battlepass which is basically everyone. not to mention seasonal comp points
i dont really, like i said in the op im mostly just venting. i threw out the idea for discussion, but i dont “expect” blizzard to do anything ever because thats a recipe for disappointment