Onetrick/Gimmick streamers have a massive negative effect on the OW community.
Im not talking about streamers who have main heroes and swap, but the legit one tricks.
They give their following the belief its acceptable to throw games by their unwillingness to swap heroes and force people to play around them.
Players are already blind enough when it comes to swapping when theyre being countered or to counter, this doesnt help.
Onetricking is bad for Overwatch
Refusing to swap does not equal throwing.
One tricking doesn’t always mean bad teammate, what if that’s the only hero they can play
I think if you make it to gm or above, you can be respected for your onetrick. Also you can be avoided for that. Can’t see any problems here. If you are such a flex player, flex around, nobody is forcing you to do so. I remember when Ashe was released, the best way was to onetrick a hero to learn it proppertly, and every pepega up to gm tells me how he sorry about my OTP state, like i don’t give a single F about that. These pepegas are still hardstuck in plat-masters btw.
No, it’s bad for you because you just can’t accept that they won’t play what YOU want them to play.
Not even the pros are trying to counter switch. They just play whatever is meta.
if you have a game where counter picking doesn’t matter on the highest level of play, that means there is an issue in the game design.
Like it or not, one tricking is as viable strategy as flexing.
I have a zen/mcree but the zen is still always dying to a tracer/dive if they refuse to swap off zen and go something they can actually survive on, theyre throwing
Also So its ok they theyre forcing me and my team to play around THEM instead? Not have them work with us?
I’d rather be stuck with a player whose worse on a hero that tries and works with the team when the situation requires swapping comps than a onetrick or who refuses to swapping when getting hard countered
If you’re playing with a Zen that’s getting dived it’s your job to peel for them. Honestly, it just sounds like you want people to flex around you and the team comp you want. How about you yourself flex?
I do, If i feel im not getting value out of my pick or im getting countered i’ll swap, cause you know, thats what the games about. Maybe I should just keep feeding on one hero and claim im learning or its my fave hero, its ok tho, you can play what you want
I only play dva because all the other tanks are boring for me
And Bastion because I feed off the salt
Frankly, big streamer brought in far more toxicity to the game than any one trick ever would.
XQC and DAFRAN being the premier on basically showing its okay and even encouraged to be toxic as well as throwing tantrums, screaming to others and throwing.
Perfect example https://twitter.com/OWTuna/status/1341489139494084610?s=20 Onetrick streamer decides he finally wants to learn a new hero he has 0 time on and throws 1000+ SR
“Oh so youre mad he’s actually playing a different hero…” yes… they’ll ruin plenty of peoples games on their climb because they get hard countered/get 0 value, throw plenty of games in their actual elo because of refusal to swap and now someone like this throws peoples games on his way back down.
Oh but its ok “because he’s trying”
I think that’s what they’re saying the problem is, the unwillingness to learn other hero’s and restricting themselves so heavily by only knowing how to play one hero in a game that expects you to be more fluid and swap to different hero’s on the fly.
I’m not saying onetricking is bad or good, don’t care to get involved in this hornets nest of discussion, just wanted to clarify their reasoning.
Kind of yes, I don’t agree with Onetricking at all and IMO should be a reportable offence idc whether its a meta/non-meta hero or any role, my biggest issue is the refusal of some players to swap heroes when their current pick is not working in that current moment of the game, If I decide now I as a tank player I wanna OTP DVA which im not good at and end up just feeding in all my games players should have the option of reporting me currently they cant because “im trying”
That’s kind of where his statement comes in though and is a reasonable counter argument. If someone has dedicated their time strictly to one hero and only knows that one hero in their mind swapping is throwing because they’re inevitably swapping to a hero they don’t know how to play well and will preform worse on even if contextually the hero would be a better option, the skill variable of the player comes into play and even though the hero may be a better pick their inability to play the hero well will result in a net negative for the team.
That’s why I took your point of the idea in general which is fair, flexibility is a part of the game and as I stated being inflexible can be quite the severe handicap given circumstances. However people that have already gotten to a rank 1-tricking are in a sticky situation where that rank really was only achieved on that 1 hero, swapping will essentially be throwing and that’s the only way they’re going to learn other hero’s and become more flexible at the same time. My opinion on that though is there’s QP to practice but that’s not everyone’s opinion.
Edit: this is coming from a flex players perspective btw.
100% agree, thats why I believe people should have on 2/3 heroes within their role, again obviously as is everything on here, just my opinion.
I would rather have a person willing to swap off a hero that is not working in whatever scenario to a hero theyre less comfortable with and try, working with them team, than simply stick to their hero and make the game a 5v6 essentially.
Its obviously a flaw within the game because obviously players chose who they want to play and can climb by onetricking but eventually they’ll reach their peak playing level on that hero and just ruin games for people.
If you want to onetrick then stick to QP/Arcade and not a competitive mode
I’d rather have a onetrick on my team than some shmuck who is a meta slave and plays a hero they don’t know how to play just because “it is meta” and “my team asked for it”.
will never happen. you can believe what you want but people are still going to do as they please. reporting them wont do anything either
im not a pure one trick myself, but i am much better on my main than anyone else.
I think we can compare it to how people feel about scalping.
No one really likes it, but it isn’t illegal (yet).
he isnt throwing games. he is learning a new hero that has 0 similarities with his main hero that he has dozens of hours on. People like stevoo try each game and he decided to learn her on his main account instead of playing on a silly smurf stomping noobs all the way to the top.