If you leave the scoreboard til the end it defeats the usefulness of a scoreboard
How are you supposed to know who on your team isnt pulling their weight?
Who on your team is feeding constantly?
If you cant see until after the game, when its too late, you cant do anything with that info.
You need that info in the match to make informed decisions so you can make changes to whats not working. The benefit of a scoreboard is so people have more information while they are playing, rather than currently where people are throwing blame around with no actual information to base that on.
If your widow has only 2 kills in 5 minutes, she needs to swap. Atm you cant see that information, with a scoreboard you can.
You can call it toxicity all you like but people will always be toxic. Id rather it get aimed at people that are the actual problem rather than thrown around at whoever your team want to scapegoat that match
It wont solve toxicity but it will actually direct it to where its deserved and give players a way to defend themselves. No longer will duos be able to just spout nonsense and get your whole team turning on you. Everyone can see who the issue is.
Because stats do not show full picture and often have multiple possible causes(low healing = either support being bad or teammates getting instantly killed), with scoreboard we would play Among Us in Overwatch.
Because youre just giving more reasons to point fingers without gaining much in return…they didn’t exactly change the information that’s given on there….it’s the same stuff people already erroneously point to as “evidence/confirmation” of what they already believe
Put it on there after….it’ll provide the same benefit without increasing the toxicity in the game (that’s already high as is)
If you’re in the Support role you can direct extra support to someone doing a lot of work, or you can try to assist someone that is struggling. Or maybe your support partner is putting out massive heals and you decide that the team could use a Zen instead of whatever you were already playing. You can use the information any way you want, and sure there will be people calling other people out but that’s what you get in a game with tiny teams.
As it is, it’s tremendously unsatisfying to have this sort of info hidden. It, and other such design choices, stripped strategic depth from OW1 in the name of combating toxicity - and then everyone complained about toxicity anyway. And what were left with? A barely functional game that was so screwed up that the only way they could fix it was by removing a tank and making it 5v5.
Will a scoreboard fix everything? No, but it’s possibly an indication that Blizzard is looking at OW2 like it’s a real FPS game and just not some sort of “FPS -Blizzard Style!” product, which has seemingly become their entire business strategy for the past 10+ years.
The people who are toxic wont change because theres a scoreboard now lol
It just allows for more information for the team so people cant just throw around lies with no way for anyone to hold them accountable
It will actually decrease spontaneous toxicity because people can no longer just attack you because you have stats to back yourself up.
When you play moira people attack you for being a ‘dps moira’. Now you can go ‘i have 15k heals look at the scoreboard’ and they cannot argue with that, its fact.
Then you have dps who are like ‘i have gold damage’ when in reality they dont. But you cant hold them to that cus you cant see. Now you can just look and see, no they dont.
Duo’s purposely single out solo players because they know they have no way to defend themself. Now you can see when your mercy is only pocketing their duo partner because her stats will reflect that
Its wins all round. Dont know what you are on about tbh. Just sound like you think the game isnt just inherently toxic. When it is. Adding a scoreboard changes nothing for toxicity
Or a means to prove who is the issue and not just randomly point fingers.
Majority of toxicity comes from having no information. You have no idea who on your team is the issue because you cant see any stats. You just have to guess.
Usually ends up as the support being scapegoated for the loss.
Which is more toxic because you are throwing around accusations at people who could be doing fine.
Now you have the information to make informed calls and actually address the intended people.
It isnt toxic to call people out for being bad at the game if they are indeed playing badly.
What is toxic is calling people out with 0 information and just guessing who is the issue. Pointing fingers at random people. Trying to get your team to bully 1 person because they arent playing a hero you like
Now those people can defend themselves. Sounds to me like you are against people defending themself from toxicity
What good does that do? It’s as useless as the post-match cards in OW1–great, Mercy did 35k healing, but the team still lost. Who’s the biggus brainus who died 32 times despite Mercy trying to Fleta deadlift them over the finish line?
Most people who are advocating for this scoreboard are kinda proving the point.
They’re arguing that not having a scoreboard is an issue because the wrong person gets flamed. Flaming people because you think they’re doing poorly in general is a horrible idea.
Numbers also don’t have context behind them. Mercy could have like 2k healing, but her team is steamrolling the enemy so she has some silly number of damage amp. Lucio could be harassing supports and winning the game for his team that way so he wouldn’t have much heals. There are so many situations where numbers lie, and the only thing that adding the scoreboard does is give a clear target for toxic players.
Reddit Lucio hard carrying or Mercy enabling a DPS to deadlift the team would still show in the stats with assists and boosts/amps. The OW1 “scoreboard” doesn’t tell you anything besides the names of the people on your team, and it’s easy to pick a hero that you don’t personally like or think is doing anything to complain about.
Learning what??? You don’t know why you lost if you only know your own performance metrics, which is what OW1 currently has. You can look at your gold medal healing at 15k and think you did great, but you’re playing Moira–why did you lose? What was the rest of your team doing the whole time?
