One argument I don’t understand about buffing mercy’s base heals

General Discussion
1

Firstly, I’d love the devs to try and give her 55 base heals, 60 was too much apparently and 50 was, at one point, too small(FYI, before all these DPS buffs).

But the argument I often see is “mercy players think the person they latch onto should be invincible”. I understand what they mean in a sense: no, no hero should be “invincible” just because they are being healed. But… 50hps/55hps isn’t exactly difficult to out damage, the lowest DPS in the game is Moira with 50 DPS. Not only that, if a mercy is healing someone who’s being attacked by a DPS, then doesn’t that mean it’s a 2v1? The mercy and her ally SHOULD have the upper hand, not because they are invincible, but because they are winning by numbers.

Edit: and I mean literally TRY, put it on PTR and see how it goes, it could be a happy medium or it could turn at a tad too much, won’t know till we try

6 Likes
2

I am not fond of the argument of buffing her heals when she already has high healing but also more utility than the actual pure healer.
Mercy has a lot baked into her kit that could be both main healer based, and off healer.

Upping her healing without flat nerfing other things is entirely unfair imo especially since she isn’t underperforming.

Part of that performance is by design. Valk is a terrible ult imo. But it’s still making her highly valuable as a support to have both roles baked into her kit.

A Swiss army kni-doctor. :woman_shrugging:t5:

4 Likes
3

up it to 55hps, nerf valk from 60hps to 55hps. It’s used mostly for damage boost.

1 Like
4

As pretty much the only person on the forum suggesting 50hps on the basis of healing per round.

It was mostly a placeholder fix, because precious development time was being dumped into Mercy for almost a year.

And I figured other underpowered heroes needed the attention more.

I honestly thought devs should get back to making Mercy feel better around February or March, but then GOATs kinda threw that out the window.

5

Her numbers aren’t terrible I’ll agree, really the only rank she shines in as the “best overall healer” is bronze/silver slightly.

We’ve seen that nerfing her Valk is actually what drove her overall heals down hugely, which is why they buffed her back up.

I’d be A-okay if some power was taken away from Valk to give to base mercy. I’ve often thought it’d be cool if they made her main beam in Valk 65/70 and then nerfed the chains to 50.

Just a thought

6

Cool, let’s make Winston even more useless.

1 Like
7

Honestly, not a bad change imo. It’s not like Valk heals are great for focus fire anyway and 5 less for it wouldn’t be horrible, it’s mostly for AoE heals/boost

At 55 he’d still be able to outdamage her heals, rn he can only do 10 more anyways.

8

I think its just too overwhelming for aim-based healers like Baptiste and Ana to compete against. Besides, she’s really good right now.

9

I cant say much from a Mercy’s perspective but as a flex tank main I love having Mercy on my team. She is the best healer for mobility based tanks.

Even if I play an Anchor tank she still is great.

Her utility is amazing and if she’s good I don’t have to focus on peeling for her constantly like other supports.

Aren’t her numbers solid atm? I mean all supports are doing well atm except maybe Brig.

1 Like
10

Yeah, it’s mostly that she’s a bit boring.

Which could largely be helped with some QoL.

11

But no healer should be the best. And she still out performs most healers in pick to win rates.

But tbh, that was probably the fairest she ever was. Valk covers a LOT of what she offers .

It’s important to remember that spread equally, supports should have a 2% pick rate. Mercy is nearly 3 times that pick rate. With a solid win rate.

Is she ana or Moira? No. But she isn’t hurting by any means whatsoever.

Any changes to her would be a buff nerf thing and tbh, I don’t think that would be well received either.

I doubt many mercy players would like a 55 heal for a 25 dmg boost. :woman_shrugging:t5:

12

Brig and baptiste. But tbh, that’s not surprising to me since I don’t think they have kits meant for the masses

13

Oh oh! I wanna see them allow her to fire her weapon when healing! Then I might actually use her myself outside of DM

14

Actually In GM Bappy boi is outbealing mercy and his winrate is 53%, Just has a small winrate.

Would just say he’s niche

15

So what if she healed at half speed, but could dual weild her staff and pistol, whenever her pistol is equipped.

🕊[Mercy] TwoHanded Blaster & Staff

16

I didn’t say baptiste was in a bad place. Especially now that his ult is fixed.

Outhealing is fine imo since unlike mercy, he has no constant utility. :woman_shrugging:t5:

You’re asking for more healing when she isn’t niche, and isn’t lowly picked, and not underperforming.

17

Ha! You can see I’ve wanted this for ages. I’m the very next poster :joy:

1 Like
18

I participate in a large number of mercy threads, and I have honestly never seen such a statement made

19

I’ve seen it . And that for many, 60 hps “felt too hard to play against”

I have an issue with 50+ for a different reason , but not “it feels bad” like I’ve seen and heard some people say…

20

She does not need heal buffs. Nothing about her needs to be changed. Except maybe a few bug fixes.

1 Like