Ok Sym's tele is 100x better than Reaper's

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So in adding Symmetra’s new teleporters, it renders Reaper’s teleport ability even MORE useless than it has already been.

Its quicker, you can go back and forth and you can use it on the entire team.

Not to mention, when you are finished teleporting you are not just standing there with smoke surrounding your entire body waiting for a headshot. LOL

Devs plz help Reaper, he needs some milk.

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Sorry only support heroes are allowed to have useful abilities.

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Naquadah, I find it ironic that I haven’t seen anyone suggesting only supports can have useful abilities / can be viable, or even saying anything that would imply that opinion, but I HAVE seen you complain about people suggesting that on two separate threads within the last hour. Give it a rest.

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I feel like Shadow Step is the only problematic thing about Reaper right now. It provides no utility for midfights and now with teleporter there’s no reason to use it much anymore.

They need to make it stronger or remove it for another ability at this point.

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I find myself using Syms tele more than Shadowstep when I play Reaper.

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This is a really funny joke.

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reaper can self heal and does way more dmg in close quarters, i think its fair

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Buffing shadowstep is something I could really get behind, even though I don’t play reaper much… just a simple reduction in the time the animation takes to finish would make it MUCH more fun to use and would make it actually useful in specific combat situations, as opposed to being an ability, whose only application seems to be decreasing the time it takes you to move around outside of combat, or getting to a sneaky location to ult from.

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I’m not sure which is more obnnoxious though, placing down syms teleporter and walking through it with only the tp sound effect playing or Reaper teleporting with a black shroud of mist surrounding him while shouting “REPOSITIONING!” to the enemy.

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Let’s not forget Symmetra’s teleporter has more HP than Reaper and is immune to crits.

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What kind of comparison is that? That’s like calling biotic field useless because Lucio’s aura can burst heal. Lol

Sure, shadow step needs a rework but the argument you used was not a good one.

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really since sym is no longer a support

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nice joke. Long game gives you at max 1k heals, zero help in fights with anything that is not winston.

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Players: Can you make shadow step more useful.
Blizzard: We reworked Reaper, He is now a healer.

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Tbh, I’d like it if they decreased the teleport duration significantly, and maybe give some sort of damage reduction when using it. That way, it could be used better in midfights as an escape or a juke.

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I honestly want it to become an instant activation ability that can teleport you anywhere you want within a distance.

If you’ve played Paladins and have seen Androxus’s ‘shadow step’ ability, that’s kinda what I’d like to see. Gives him brief mobility and would pair with activating Death Blossom VERY well.

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Or maybe just adress one of it’s glaring issues:

ahem

REAP-OSTIONING

DEATH COMES FROM THE SHADOWS

Seriously he was doing it before Sombra came along with her “BEEN HERE ALL ALONG” meme.

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That sounds a TON of fun! I would like to see them decrease it’s range if they go that way though, it might be a bit overpowered if reaper could teleport straight onto you from half the map away while shouting his favorite word repeatedly (aka “DIE, DIE, DIE!” if that wasn’t clear xD). If it was a shorter range teleport you could still see him coming and prepare in time.

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Oh yeah, it’d definitely have to be shorter range, or else it’d be totally busted.

I think it would be a healthy change to the ability and could allow him to chase heroes down better using both Wraith Form and Shadow Step, which is what Reaper is meant to do, be a chase down/tank buster hero since he’s a CQC character.

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I really just think that with some tuning Shadow Step could become one of the best escape abilities in the game.
If blizzard would just do a few things…

  1. Decrease the cooldown to 8 seconds. ( This is NOT a mandatory thing, I think it would just help a lot).
  2. Instead of making it so the area that you mark is so easily seen because of the giant smoke cloud, instead I think it should just be like a black circle with maybe some like wisps of black smoke around the edges. ( This way it makes it a lot harder for like say a sniper for instance to clearly see where you are teleporting to and all they have to do is just line up the shot while you are completely immobile and then it’s basically a free kill).
  3. Decrease the cast time down to 2 seconds (1 second while you are disappearing and 1 second while you are reappearing) , or if you wanted to really be extreme decrease it down to 1 second.(.5 seconds disappearing, .5 seconds reappearing.) This way the ability would be much more consistent because you might be able to actually use the ability while in the middle of combat.)
    In my opinion these changes would be really good for Reaper, I am not a developer or anything so the numbers and cooldowns would most likely be changed. But these are just some ways that I think could really improve Shadowstep.

(Literally the only time I use shadowstep is when I am trying to get to the point/payload, other than that it has basically no use.

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