Now that doom and brig have been dealt with

Can we adress the elephant in the room? Hanzo?

Acording to polls on overwatch done by around 1500ish players, 50% of the population thinks hanzo is op or overtuned. Thats a good sample size.

Storm arrow needs to be looked at or maybe his falloff dmg. His kit has everything. Wall hack lunge (a fast jump back) he can wall climb with virtualy no cd. Every time SA is up your pretty much gonna take out most tanks shield or kill someone unless you have potato aim. SA is basicly an ultimate on a skill cooldown. Its nick name is (release) fan the bow.

I promise you if we dont do it now. We will be asking for it later.

Closing though, after the shield bash cd nerf I though brig was fine. She did make it less fun to play some classes. Imo hanzo makes it unfun to play the majority of the cast cause his kills feel cheap. He can get random kills (one shots on accident) not even trying. Hes a better tank buster than reaper still.

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Changing him even a little could make him trash again.

I feel like the only solution is to remove head shots from storm arrow. This should keep the impact of busting down tanks. While not being so cheap to just randomly spam and hit a dps in the head.

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1500 players from ONE source!!!
Wow that sounds like the most inclusive and least bias poll I’ve ever seen for a game with 35 million players.

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Wait bois, we have something here! If 50% said it is broken, then that must mean at least 0% of the other 50% said it might be broken or it most likely is. No lie 100%, see the thing is it’s 1 source and even then it was split 50/50 so there is no indeterminate evidence that this source is reliable or accurate.

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He is by nature inconsistent. So…

Median SR is around 2300 and we can assume that most forum posters lie somewhere in +/- 500 from that. Sorry but players below Masters almost always lack in gamesense area so their opinion on balance should be taken with a grain of salt. I am below Masters btw.

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No

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Doomfist is hardly dealt with (he might not always get a guaranteed kill on ana or zen with his ultimate, he still facerolls through any team that is not organised to deal with him), we only have to see what the change to birgitte actually does, because her solo kill potential is not her strength in organised teamplay.
These are small steps to characters who are most likely fundamentally flawed.

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His (Hanzo) kit has everything

He cant selfheal / sustain.
He doesnt have a disable
He really doesnt have an escape ability. Ever tried to wallclimb, yeah, not really reliable.

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Can we trust the developers to do what’s good for their game for once? If they think Hanzo is overturned, then they will nerf him don’t worry yourselves about it. Ultimately, our opinions doesn’t matter.

Hanzo is statistically fine. We can argue that his one-shot ability is a bit too strong for spammable projectile and ult going through walls is inconsistent with everything in this game, but he does not overperforms anymore. Any changes to him must be compensated in other areas.

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Okay, I’m not sure I think he’s overtuned BUT if I did I’d say its because of lunge. I think when they reworked him just adding storm arrow was fine, not sure he needed that extra mobility.

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Dont care about hanzo or balance in the least but in 1200AD a sample size of like a 1,000,000 people thought that the earth was flat. Thats a better sample size. It still wasn’t right

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Why yes, lets nerf him too. We only need emotional opinions to do it. :wink:

After Ashe came out, i did a lot of training in FFA Games and alike.
It’s really hard (for me at least) to even land a Headshot on Ashe with all those tiny little Hitboxes.

Unless i play hanzo, it feels like i shoot friggin Logs out when it comes to the hitbox of his arrows.

But that’s of course purely subjective Feeling from my side

i’d just make storm arrow shoot 5 arrows instead of 6. And maybe remove headshot. It would still deal 360 damage in less than 2 seconds.

Also, hanzo actually has the smallest porjctile hitbox in the game. It’s just that head hitboxes are big and his headshots means ohko, so you notice it more.

Where and when were these polls held?

Why not increase the headshot multiplier but decrease the body shot damage so the actual skilled players get rewarded for precision?. Something like 45-50 body shot. 140 hs.

I thought of 100 bodyshot and 2.5 mult, so that headshots still do 250.
Basically, like what widow has.

What? I meant for storm arrows. Also 100 body shot +250 hs would be a buff really.

No you’re not wrong. They decided to give all the projectiles in this game huge hitboxes. Since the characters also have hitboxes bigger than their visuals this creates a feeling of being able to shoot close to someone as projectile and still land a hit. I think it’s a good balancing technique. Most of the characters are projectile so if they didn’t have some.leniancy hitscan would completely dominate. Although it couldn’t hurt to decrease the projectile size across the board just a smidge.

Also ashe has the smallest bullets in the game, smaller than widow. So going from her to hanzo will feel like free headshot day- same goes for most of the cast.