I just did all my placements and lost every single one of them except one. I remember why I hated this and why I’m glad they changed to 2-2-2:
9 of the matches (yes 9, no joke), had four dps. I typically play Orisa in other modes but I’m stuck with either being the solo healer or solo tank. Normally someone else instalocks the tank role so I try to do the right thing and be a healer.
Guess what happens? Yep. We get stomped. Every time.
I try asking politely in the group chat, and I just get met with making fun of me, or saying “well go her then, I’m not switching off DPS!”. So then we’d have no healers at all. It’s just insane. The one game I got a victory, I got to play her with 3 DPS and 2 healers, won instantly.
I know I’m kind of complaining for nothing because the regular official rank is still here to play, but has anyone else had this experience? Like I get part of the fun of open queue is to experiment, but why does it come down to 4 dps every time, and they absolutely refuse to switch off if we are getting stomped, so I can lead in with a good tank?
Fair enough, I think it’s just frustrating for me because I like to tank or heal normally (I don’t play DPS that much), but when you have 4 to 5 dps every match, and have to decide to solo heal or tank it just sucks. And like I said it’s even worse because you’d think they would switch after getting stomped every time, but nope. So I’m pigeon holed.
i like rank open queue until around 6-7pmish because thats when all the pro coin flippers and bastion bunker comps who dont want to have fun or enjoy the game just want to get a hard on when they see the 3000sr marker
a pro for after 6-7pm is that all the braindead moira/brig mains i get on my team leave and get replaced with actual good moira/brig mains so hey
Exactly, though if the Devs wouldn’t have given RQ then they could have said just use the LFG system… then i’d bet alot of the issues would have been resolved plus the feature is more used.
Open queue doesn’t work gameplay wise or balance wise. You can’t balance the game with vastly different heroes in different roles unless you make all of them very similar.
From what I saw most players treat it as free comp points rather than a legit competitive mode. Thus you get players who either don’t care or do not trust their own team.
This is why you often see four DPS on a team. The other players do not trust the other DPS so they run it themselves.
There is also the issue that the game is not balanced for it.
I streamed 5 of your placements. You were on my team 2 out of 5. Your team stomped everytime. IIRC you played bastion around 700sr. I’ll have to review the vods, but you were a gold border hammond once or twice, stomping on kids, as part of a duo/2stack.
I also have vods/ss of you complaining how you wanted to be Orisa, but couldn’t, because of the comp. First rule of OQ - there is no comp.
I went healer for almost every match, because we had four dps every time. I got to play Orisa one time in my placements. How is that complaining when we are getting stomped and nobody is willing to get off that many dps so I can get a healer to go Orisa? Are you trying to start crap with me or something?
No thats a large part of why it failed, you can want that composition, and the more you refine it, the less people fill it, and the less flexibility you have in the game, open queue LFG is dead for the same reason, it’s slow, people would rather go with randoms than use it, and adding any garauntees of getting what you want restricts your ability to flexibly adapt - it’s the absolute opposite of meta tactics to hamstring yourself. LFG doesn’t really work unless it’s offering “Fair” and fast matches, with LFG, you not only have to first find a team to fit your bill, then you have to go into groups matchmaking to be put against other groups, alot of the time these groups consist of friend with better coordination and one’s usually on an alt so he can “play with his friends” and they’re not from your skill bracket - and ontop of that, the moment you lose a game, you’re building a new team from square one because someone called it quits.
As if to say open queue doesn’t have many restrictions imposed by the ability to run compositions that can’t really be balanced without killing the participating heroes because power level is just as much of a wall as a role lock is and in that right, imposes its own unique restrictions on the player - and those power levels are the other side of the problem, open queue made alot more sense in terms of tank/healing back before the new heroes were added, now there is so much with overlapping kits that those stupid powers exist when you combine them - while they may all be individually well balanced - together they get stupid, overlap like brig lucio -overlap like sigma and orisa, where you can barrier out and spam simultaneously.
LFG simply ain’t the answer - both open queue and 2/2/2 will always have their own problems, but both exist now so ima just leave it at, both there, both will be enjoyed, that’s great, stop trying to have a say in a mode you don’t give a crap about coz at that point - ROOD. You got what you wanted, open queue exists now, no need to be annoyed the other side of the isle exists anymore.