well sigmas dps is quite low, but his spheres do hurt a bit on 2 direct hits.
however it’s more impressive in it’s aoe damage output than it’s actual dps.
that’s why he can’t really fight other tanks that well.
an orisa will out dps a sigma even at this current iteration.
and you could probably say the same about orisa that she has 2 different damage negating abilities too.
but yes sigma is a very strange tank, even stranger than hammond and that’s saying a lot.
however i don’t find orisa or sigma to be that weak really, it’s just that reinhardts kit is so solid.
a 300 dps damage burst that also functions as CC.
a long range barrier and character piercing attack.
the best self defensive barrier.
aoe damage that also applies CC to the target knocking them around.
a really good ult that charges really fast and activates pretty quickly aswell.
built in passive anti-CC.
i think he also has 200 armor ontop of his 300 hp normal health which is pretty good, which means it can’t be emp’d away and does reduce some attacks more.
reinhardt right now is extremely solid as a tank.
Well, I don’t know about Sigma’s current iteration. But previously, Sigma was commonly the most damaging tank overall (going by average damage per game). That’s nuts. Main tanks are supposed to give up some offensive capability to have that big shiny barrier, and Sigma not only did not do that but he was better than all the off tanks.
That’s why double barrier was a thing. Sigma has all the strengths of having a barrier but gives up nothing offensively by having it.
not in dps he weren’t.
just because his damage done was inflated by his very easy to hit aoe that ultimately did nothing made him seem stronger than he was.
it’s like saying d.va is the best tank because she has the most eliminations, but we all know that’s not true and it’s just an inflated stat.
trust me, if there was no aoe component to sigmas balls you would be screaming for sigma to get a dps buff.
sigmas actual dps is around 80 dps per single target. his aoe dps is 45 dps at best dealing 60 damage in aoe.
so he’s just mildly better than winston.
I mean, he was almost always on top on both damage and elims. You can’t explain that away as just being trash damage. Also, I played him, and he was a killing machine.
if his damage is truly that good, why is his worst match-up other tanks?
i can beat a sigma easily with winston.
the only reason sigma even kills squishies are because they are not getting healed.
assume a moira is healing a squishy it would take sigma atleast 3 rounds of accurate shots which is a whopping 4.5 seconds on a squishy and that’s the fastest ttk he has against a squishy, meanwhile d.va can burn down a roadhog with shotgun headshots in less.
damage done doesn’t translate allways to kills.
junkrat and pharah is a living proof of that.
Because he doesn’t do a ton of DPS, but it’s very easy to do and difficult to avoid. It’s the same reason Moira can outduel nearly every DPS or support but isn’t good against tanks at all.
And, like Moira, if he focuses damage he can do a ton with what is not technically a hugely damaging weapon, simply because it’s so easy to use.
Also, he has (well, had) an amazing, high damage ult.
Take away Mei’s chain freeze and she’s fine. Revert Mccree’s peacekeeper and he’s fine. I’d say DVA is the only character that feels oppressive with her 3 second boosters. You can’t get away from her, but she can get away from you, get healed, and be back in your face in under 10 seconds.
allright, you believe whatever you want to believe.
i’m gonna keep picking sigma for utility and not his dps.
it’s served me well this far.
I mean, if you don’t believe me you can go back and check his stats during his meta. And it’s for both elims and damage. He had good solo elims too.
idk whats wrong with mcree hmm
he currently high pick rate but low / medium winrate
he has alot of pick because he more fun than soldier… and soldier has better winrate
his gun with 0.5 fire rate are allready very good
if they want to revert firerate they probably buff 250 hp again… idk 250 hp mcree scares me
idk what else they will buff compensate for him, his roll is decent, his flash strong allready, his fth are also good enough
off of accretion.
which was more or less a hog hook that you can play around.
and now it doesn’t even do that properly, you have to rely on external damage sources for it to be a killer move.
honestly i get more kills off of reinhardts charge than i do accretion these days.
Well, even so… a tank should not have a barrier, DM, a hog hook, and a good long range weapon.
He is overloaded and it’s only because all of it’s been made really weak that he’s not overpowered.
yeah you keep telling me that when i can kill sigma with winston like it’s nothing.
sigma can’t go toe to toe with any other tank.
that should give you a red flag about his situation.
the only thing sigma got going for him is utility in his kit.
That definitely didn’t used to be the case. I played Sigma somewhat and I had no specific difficulty with other tanks.
D.va is OP. Rest of game is quite dandy right now.
Let Mcree be meta, he’s such a fair character. I just want his fire rate toned down and KEPT down. They keep upping it and downing it, like please stop.
Kill Mei though
not when you have a team that can take care of the enemy tanks for you, what do you think orisa did?
orisa had actually great single target dps. it’s still pretty good.
it was rivaling both zaryas and d.vas. not as much now though but almost.
Orisa’s weapon is too avoidable for her to usually do a lot of damage. Her stats put her with the other main tanks, before.
Go back and look at the stats for total match damage, in high ranks, during double barrier. Sigma is doing more damage than most off tanks, and Orisa was pretty typical for a main tank.
Also, this reflects what it felt like to play them. With Orisa, I usually pulled bronze damage most games, with only higher medals happening if the other team just zergs you all game and you have good healing so you live through it. With Sigma I usually got silver damage and elims at worst, often gold damage and elims.
but orisa deals a lot of damage to tanks, sigma can 2 shot squishies, that’s the divide.
that’s a big reason why they work so well as a tank duo ontop of having double barrier, they watch each others back.
look at every tank duo we have, it’s aoe attack + single target dps.
winston+d.va aoe and single target.
the exception to this was orisa hog, but that was more so because halt+hook and orisa being immortal.
yeah no…mei AND reaper both shut down the role, not just mei, and there is no justification for this