Eh, I wouldn’t say it is meaningless. It’s an important distinction. Not all tanks fill the role of tank to the same extent as others. Zarya is great for enabling her fellow tanks and peeling for the backline, but her own ability to tank and make space for her team is limited compared to the barrier tanks.
Edit: That’s not to say that you always need a main tank. It can vary based on your team comp, map, and the enemy team comp.
There isn’t one. It’s a dive comp. Everyone plays a role. Winston was just absurdly strong and highly mobile which let him do everything. DVa performed the exact same role.
Yes the comps name is dive.
But the main tank still is winston.
How is that such a hard concept to understand?
How is it hard concept to understand I’m disagreeing with the term of main tank?
You can’t just deny the fact that I said I don’t like or accept the term and then say i’m wrong for not accepting that you’re using it.
Sure, but barrier tank is the important notion there. Zarya-Brig-Reinhardt in a coordinated setting is the most oppressive thing I’ve seen so far. None of them really function as a ‘main tank,’ they all enable eachother to form this indomitable front line.
Dive has never existed without Winston. Dive’s viability has always been dependent on Winston’s viability.
This is because all Main Tanks are Anchor Tanks, Anchor Tanks by Blizzard’s definition are tanks you build team comps around.
Trying to build Dive around a D.Va is a recipe for disaster because she is too easy to demech, and no other tank bar Winston can attempt to perform the role.
However build Dive around Winston and you can even build the dive to work without an off-tank instead grabbing a 3rd medium-high mobility DPS for extra firepower to burst things down faster.
If you don’t have the rein, but instead you have a d.va - you don’t have a main tank.
No. You’re lacking a barrier at that point. You’ve disassembled a cohesive unit. Zarya and Brig can still do plenty of work, they’re just less effective than the full squad.
In other words Reinhardt is the Main Tank that enables Brigitte and Zarya to do their job optimally.
I’ve been wanting rein buffs since around s5 when I saw how buggy he was and how much he was screwed over by map design. Double mine junkrat, and all the other new CC that has been added only makes rein worse
No. You run Zarya and Reinhardt without Brig against a team that counters Reinhardt. They lack the ability to tear through barriers, interrupt ultimates effectively, or punish people who try to push up on the Rein.
Run Reinhardt and Brig. Now you get punished by every CC in the game and burst damage.
And? Reinhardt is a meta dependent hero, just like Winston or even Orisa to an extent.
Supports generally define the meta. Tanks and DPS generally follow (though I might argue that Winston D.Va was the driving force behind Dive)
At least everyones favorite grandma is getting some love again. She deserves it. But I agree, I also would like to hear some news about Reinhardt sooner or later.
Run Brig and Zarya without Reinhardt and the front line collapses with ease.
Because they cannot perform the role of Main Tank, absorbing the majority of the damage, as they are off-tanks.
You build your comp differently at that point. That’s like saying a Torb is an anchor tank because you have to build your team around him otherwise your team collapses with ease.
Different heroes create different playstyles. He’s not suddenly a “main tank” because he enables a certain style of play. He is a barrier tank and having a barrier allows you to do certain things you’d otherwise not be able to.
Zarya has 2 barriers but she’s not a main tank.
okay. Reinhardt has 1 barrier and he’s not a main tank.
But he is a main tank…
Just because you lack the understanding of the concept doesn’t mean there are no main tanks.
I’m just making the same, irrelevant argument you’re making. I’ve actively denied the idea of a ‘main tank’ category and yet you keep bringing it up with no clarifications as if it shuts down my points.
Just because you deny something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
And just because you believe in something doesn’t mean it exists.