I play on both PS5 and PC , however , the elitism of PC players is something else , majority of them need to stop acting like everyone on PC is in OWL. Just because you can type " lmao" in chat doesn’t make you special.
Crossplay is for everything, but competitive. I didn’t know people took quick play so seriously until cross play was announced. If you are a quick play warrior then you should be happy you get faster matches
I am 100% certain some console players are gonna give PC players a wake up call, especially comsole tank players
Yeah I don’t know why PC is obligated to play crossplay. On that same token though, I do not understand the removal of aim assist when playing with PC players
This is the message of a capricious child who was not accepted into the game by other children.
And you know what? This is their right. You are not the center of the universe, but the Blizzard still forces us to play with you, so don’t come and ask to turn on the auto-aim.
It’s not about thinking all console players are trash. I don’t think that.
It’s about console players being handicapped by their hardware.
It’s like running a race.
And you’re are a very fast runner. But you decide to run the race with sand bags tired to your legs. Why? Because that is what you’re used to, and that is the only way you know to run races.
While your opponents, are as fast as you, or some slower than you, and are running the race with no sand bags. Some even on bicycles.
Using a controller and playing on consoles where the FPS is capped or limited, and using a TV that doesn’t compare to a high refresh monitor with low input lag and all that, it all adds up to having a disadvantage against PC players that have Superior hardware to work with.
Not being “trash” doesn’t mean you can outperform K&M users.
QP matches are already fast to find.
More like the other way around.
I can bet the first thing that will happen when crossplay become a thing will be console players begging for aim assist.
Because the queue times would be unbearable for cross-platform groups if they were only being matched with other cross-platform groups. They need a consistent population to be placed into and the PC population makes the most sense since it’s the largest. Letting PC players opt out would negate the whole point of offering the service.
What this analogy takes for granted is that using a control is handicapping yourself but using M+K doesn’t. In practice, there are pros and cons to both methods. To me, M+K is like being able to look around quickly and freely but while walking on stilts. Using a controller allows complete freedom of movement but at the cost of look speed and precision, both of which are less important in OW than in traditional FPS games.
As far as FPS caps and stuff, OW has always run at 60 FPS on console (not Switch), which is more than enough for anybody. While there is a big difference between 30 and 60, there’s barely a discernible difference between 60 and anything higher. And OW2 will likely run at 120 on next-gen consoles since other FPS games already do. My PS5 and fancy TV are likely more powerful than what the average PC player is working with and there are plenty of people with cruddy PCs in high ranks. It’ll be a non-issue.
There are mouse and keyboard users on console who have aim assist and I can outplay them. Albeit, I have aim assist too. Taking it away is meh, but that is what PC players need so they don’t get outplayed TOO hard. I totally understand why they support the removal of aim assist and in the same breath pretend a console player will be a detriment. It actually makes a lot of sense especially in a context regarding quick play.
I see someone who hasn’t used a 144hz monitor long enough. After using 144hz for seven years going back to 60 almost feels like 30 did when I used to run 60.
Can you please explain this. I dont understand what the walking on stilts thing is.
Movement on M+K i superior in every way. Aiming, turning, tracking.
Take for example Tracer. This also applies to all heroes but Tracer is the easier for this example.
I can be dashing around the map at 200 miles an hour, all while tracking enemies , turning to their direction in an instant, never losing my aim, while running circles around them while the curser is always on them.
I cannot do this on a controller.
If I’m playing Soldier, and someone shoots me in the back. I can , in an instant, do a 180 and fight back. Again not easy to do on console.
Strafing(a,d,a,d) , dodging, crouch spam by PC players will also be a nightmare for a controller player with their sluggish movement and aim.
I game on a 240hz monitor with a sub 1mm response time (no TV beats that). I have 2 PC’s one with a 1080 ti, the other with a 3080 ti. Along with comparable other components and a very good mice and KB.
A PS5 and XBOX series X have GPU’s comparable to a 2080 super. And even then you are limited to a controller and also to 60-120 capped frames. Also that the internal ram is shared with the whole system rather than have dedicated ram for the gpu, which affects performance. That’s why they have to optimize the games correctly to run in this type of system.
This all relates to aiming, though. Aiming with a mouse is easier but I’m talking about actually moving with WASD. That limits keyboard users to movement at 45-degree angles and they have to point the mouse elsewhere if they want to move any differently than that, which means they have to sacrifice where they’re free to aim. For example, a M+K user can’t aim in one spot while moving in a circle.
Keyboard users also have to take their fingers off of movement keys to hit ability keys. With default bindings, a keyboard user can’t throw a pulse bomb while moving at an angle. Controllers can. Even if someone is using a mouse with extra buttons for abilities, they have to take their fingers off something to use them. With a controller, my fingers never have to leave my triggers, bumpers, or control sticks. The only exception is crouching because I have to move a thumb to hit the circle button but I’m willing to make that one sacrifice for total freedom elsewhere.
I just gave you the Tracer example.
I can run circle around my enemies, all while the curser is always on the target.
To achieve this you need a M+K, a good monitor (144+ helps), and good tracking/aiming skills.
All abilities and the ultimate are remapped to buttons on my mouse. And even if i didnt , this is basically a non issue as button presses take only a split second.
Pushing them takes less than a second. I don’t have to stop walking to do this.
Playing on a controller feels sluggish and less accurate. At least for me.
This is a situation where I think Overbuff is kind of revealing. So many metrics between consoles and PC are almost identical. If you bring up both side by side you couldn’t even immediately tell which was PC or which was console.
If you just pick up a 2 heroes say widowmaker and mercy you can compare gaussian curves on various metrics for the different systems for both quick play and competitive. I find it very interesting how closely the two match on nearly all of the metrics. You might be off by like a couple of percent. 8.79 deaths PC/Comp vs 9.22 deaths PSN/Comp. 47% vs 46% scoped accuracy as the median. Every single stat its extremely close.
Given different control schemes, people perform largely the same.
How is asking for an option to disable cross-play considered elitism?
You have something against me having this option?
Yeah, if it’s “just quickplay omegalul”, let’s turn it into total carnage. Let’s stop balancing quick play, let’s allow people to pick 6 identical heroes, let’s allow people to throw games without punishment. iT’s JusT qUiCk pLaY.
