"Not Dead Because Queues Are Fast"

Do you not understand what happened? The reason the matchmaking is so bad is because there’s less people to play the game, so the algorithm to matchmake is extending to further ranks.

For example, let’s say you’re about Silver in SR/MMR. Instead of putting you in a game with Bronze/Silver/Gold, you’re getting put into games with Bronze all the way to Master since there’s less people around your rank.

Stop using this as an indicator. Quick games with terrible balancing doesn’t mean it has a huge playerbase. The game is dying. Their own financial’s state this. Stop coping.

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kinda true

even if there is only 10 people playing matchmaking will make them play together

making it still fast to find a team

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I say it’s in a bleeding decline phase. Only consider a game dead when the queues are vastly high or they announce servers going offline

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My Q time is high, even for QP and even higher for comp. It’s not T500 or GM, it’s high plat, low diamond.

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Game has bleed a ton of players now. But doesn’t mean the game is dying or dead. It’s hurting a lot right now

If it dies, it will die in places like the OCE first, who have a smaller pool of players to begin with, so you have a canary before it happens.

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Yes. This was Blizzard’s awful response to the 15+ minute queues of Overwatch. Your rating basically doesn’t mean anything any more, because you’ll queue into people of basically any rank. And if you preform well, the game even favors teaming you with the worst preformers. Hence why people have tanked so many divisions lately, because no matter how good you are, you can’t overcome the heavy weight on your team.

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I feel like the game is going to take a massive hit but a dead status seems somewhat unlikely

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I agree, but you will see same game modes in some places die out. We already had that in the OCE in OW1.

Is OW2 going to die any time soon? not likely. is paying for constant access to the PvE games worth it in the OCE? hell no, because outside of the original push, there literally won’t be enough people queuing to get a game of it.

So in very real terms, parts of the game are dead, in parts of the world.

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Do you understand? The rank problem existed at the launch of OW2, when populations were at their hypothetical highest.

Either the population was low then (unlikely), or it’s not a population problem at all.

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I can get a hamburger from McDonald’s in less than a minute. Doesn’t make it good. People who use que times as evidence that OW is healthy are missing the point. By a mile.

Also, anyone else notice how they quietly did away with the “if 1 team has console players both will” rule to make ques faster?

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Got a reference to this? It’s my understanding that this is what players want, but was never a rule.

“Console players play in PC lobbies only when queued up with PC players” is stated, but I’ve never heard your claim stated anywhere but in this post.

I know the cool thing to do on the forums is hop on whatever bandwagon there is, which lately has been the matchmaker, but would anyone really prefer having 5+ minute queues like we did in OW1? Nah.

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Who are you trying to fool? Players have been pointing out how terrible the matchmaker is since late 2019. It keeps getting worse, so much so that many of the people who were able to tolerate it before are getting fed up with it. There is no sudden bandwagon. Role queue straight up doesn’t work, now years later there are hardly any players anywhere so every mode is suffering from bad matchmaking.

Your deflection might work on a fifth grader but not on anyone here.

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I’d ask you the same

Who in their right mind wants 5+ minute queues back? No one.

Who in their right mind wants open queue only? No one.

Yet here you are pretending otherwise

Probably all those millions of players who quit and didn’t come back for RQ. Matchmaking was actually good from 2016 - early 2019 in both skill matching and queue times.

Meanwhile nobody but the bottom percentile of players are okay with silvers and masters playing in the same matches. Clown

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LMAO

Yea you are :clown_face:

Keep clowning for years, you won’t get anywhere. Open queue is gone

The expected intelligence from someone that cannot refute how much more popular the game was back then. Next time champ, try forming a sound argument that can’t get blown away so easily.

Just like OW2 bozo

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You don’t really think you’re the victor in this conversation do you? God help you. You have said nothing but nonsense.

Whatever you say :rofl:

You’ll be lurking the forums for years saying the same goofy take

OW2 is fine bro, stay mad

I lose because they gave me bad teammate , totally not because me