Non Mercy mains. Do you notice mercy is gone?

Like has anything really changed with her ban? Is there something really different about quality of your matches or was she inconsequential all along?

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Well

Pharah is being picked even less now

And I wish I was joking but I almost feel bad

Because this reply sounds like a “No duh” I mean on the off chance she is picked, people just immediately swap off her, even if the enemies have no hitscan.

I don’t know if she was necessarily inconsequential, but you don’t really notice her absence. And I think that’s the problem.

But, of course, you’ll still get people, that are like:

“Lul, Mercy is fine, bro”

Honestly, having her not be around, doesn’t really have much of an impact. And I think that’s a huge problem when you have a role with only seven heroes. They all need to have some sort of a “footprint”. I’m not saying that any of them needs to be a must pick, but you should feel an impact when they’re banned. And with Mercy, you just don’t. And that’s a big issue in my opinion

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Every time someone dies now they see my pfp and say I can only play mercy and call me boosted.

I mean, I don’t know what they expected

I guess they wanted to see how dive would perform, if picked, on ladder without Mercy?

I don’t see any cohesion in the Mercy/Hamster/Hanzo han. Most Mercys do not pocket Hanzo, it takes too long to heal Hamster…

I simply don’t see what they wanted to test here, so of course to me it seems inconsequential

Rip

I think they were also trying to see the effects of damage boost and resurrection.
Because, without those two things, you can kind of see how everyone plays without being pocketed or coming back from the dead all the time.

That’s the only reason I can see. Like, they probably wanted to see how Heroes like Ashe and Pharah and such perform without that pocket

But pocketing below a pro scene is already so inconsistent I don’t think they’ll get any valuable statistics

Not really, only two situations in which I feel I really miss Mercy.

1.I’m on a good damage boost DPS
2. The player is horrendous at hitting shots on Ana, is a DPS Moira/Bap, etc.

The upside of this is just like with Ashe/Pharah last ban, this might be an opportunity for the devs to gather data to see how Mercy can be buffed.

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You’re right, they might not. But, they probably feel it’s worth testing. Especially, when last week they tried testing how Pharah performs with minimal counters. So, they probably want to see how she performs with minimal “help” against those counters.

That would be my guess.

And, they probably want to see how much impact Mercy actually has on the game, as a whole and whether or not that means she actually needs buffs or not to compete with some of the other support options

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Kinda nice not having to worry about rez since a lot of people in my rank decide to ignore enemy mercy…

Edit: I don’t really consider myself a “Mercy main” but a support main. I do have a lot of hours on mercy tho. Sorry, I misread the title :crazy_face:

I see where you’re coming from

But I personally believe that they just choked and banned heroes they felt the forums wanted banned.

Not to say devs don’t know what they are doing, but it’s quite clear that, as with most of these hero bans, they have no clear goal in mind and are just banning to ban.

Not entirely a bad thing to test the effects of banning before next season, but I personally believe most people are generally against map pools and hero pools that the players in the actual match can not vote/decide for themselves on.

I almost have 1300 hours on Mercy, and tbh it’s actually so nice to have your team get a pick, and it doesn’t automatically get undone🤷‍♀️
Picks feel meaningful, it’s a nice change.

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I, somebody who has over 300 hours on Mercy feel the same way. This is what led me to make this thread. How can it be that I miss playing as Mercy because I like GA but I honestly never had a match where I said “if only I could go Mercy, we’d win”. When Ana and Moira were banned I felt suffocated in the support slot.

But I also want to know if non mercy mains noticed that she is gone. Like have their matches become easier, harder, are their enemies easier or harder to kill

No it’s ok. I was more aiming at non mercy mains cuz ofc mercy mains notice she is absent from their games. I just want to know if this mercy ban has had any significant impact on people who don’t main her.

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I don’t know. Almost every week, I’ve seen some sort of method to the madness. Some sort of reason why they would ban a certain hero. Sometimes it’s to see if they’re overpowered and are contributing to a meta, sometimes it’s been to see if they’re underpowered and aren’t contributing enough overall, sometimes it was to test synergies.

I actually noticed it a lot. But, it could be true that maybe I’m reading too much into things, maybe it is random. That is also a possibility. I do have a tendency to read more into things than necessary.

Yeah, I’m not a mercy main, myself, but I do have a decent amount of time on her. And, you’re right, I’ve never really felt the situation of “Oh my God, if I could play mercy right now, we totally could win”. I did, however, feel that when other supports were banned. And, that should tell you something right there.

Honestly, outside of not hearing German, not seeing a glorified butterfly soar at me with her pistol trying to kill me, and not seeing a rez animation, For the last few days, I haven’t really noticed she’s gone.

Again, minimal impact.

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1000%

So many times I pick Mercy and just feel like I’m throwing for playing her when I’m not going to pocket dps/zarya

If I was Ana I could build so many nanos just yesterday I used nano, 5 seconds later enemies grav’d 5 of my team. Next thing I know I’m 80 on nano. Absolutely insane

If I was Moira, I could do so much brain dead area healing.

If I was Lucio, I could do Mercy’s healing with beat as a crutch and boop to contest enemy reaper and what not.

If I was Brig, I could help vulnerable allies and do more healing than Mercy

If I was Zen I do him against certain comps and bastion ofc I can build so many trans to just force win fights over and over and even get some picks if the enemies are bad enough to try me and not know I got these hands!

If I’m Mercy…what? I damage boost someone until they take some spam damage so I heal it off and boost some more?

Maybe they get their ult a little faster until they save it until the end of overtime looking for a sextuple kill which does nothing in the end?

I somehow get a ballzy rez that only feeds the enemies ult charge as they kill me and my rez’d target?

Mercy just feels so worthless if you’re not pocketing some t500

Nothing against Mercy, but she can stay gone an extra week imo

Sadly Mercy’s current poor state doesn’t make her that important, unlike Ana or Moira. She needs help but it’s been more than two years, I believe. The developers still appear to be avoiding Mercy, as well as not making an effort to engage with ongoing discussions about Mercy’s state.

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Well, that’s the thing, even her whole resurrection shtick, doesn’t even feel that good.

First of all, the cooldown for a single resurrection, is ridiculous. If I wanted to use a long cooldown for a big impact, I would use immortality field. And, it’s not even the fact that immortality field is all that good (It’s really not, after all it’s nerfs). But, it is a damn sight better than resurrection.

Honestly, the long cooldown paired with the self stun and all that stuff, it makes it a near worthless ability. You also can’t heal during the entire time you’re performing it, so while you’re resurrecting one teammate, another one could be dying.

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No more free res on the hard pocketed widow I got an extremely difficult kill on.

Of course you never feel like swapping to Mercy could turn the game around.

Mercy doesn’t have a “Sharp Edge” anymore. She doesn’t have that ability/ultimate where if she lands it at the right time it’ll swing the game in her favor or if she doesn’t… it’ll be fantastic for her opponents.

Why? Because the rework made nearly everything that wasn’t “Sharp” about Mercy insanely good. Perfect reliability doesn’t make a hero “Sharp”. Amazing mobility and self sustain doesn’t make a hero “Sharp”. She has both of those though and those attributes turn Mercy into a 100% must pick if her kit is at all “Sharp” and her brand of sharpness is useful.

Anything that was “Sharp” about Mercy got chucked in the trash bin to make room for the fact that Mercy is nearly impossible to shut down.

Not really.
I still see her in a good 1/3rd of of my games.