I’m sick of seeing this “he’s just overperforming a little bit” or “he’s just a little overtuned, the forums are over exaggerating.”
No. Genji is Overpowered, he’s literally the second best DPS hero and the only one who’s better than him is Sojourn who is a DPS who literally has EVERYTHING.
Genji is a flanker with good utility, an amazing ultimate, and good mid-fight potential.
I don’t want to hear the “his ult isn’t even that good you can just counter it with a supp ult”… girl, please list the other ultimates that require you switch a hero to deal with it. Grav? I really can’t think of much else because generally only the absolute strongest ultimates in the game require that you swap heroes to deal with them. Genji’s ultimate requiring a swap is an testament to it’s strength, not it’s weakness.
Like, this isn’t a hero who needs one or two small nerfs, this is a hero who needs one or two mid-sized nerfs, or one big nerf. An ultimate as good as dragonblade cannot also exist on a hero who can compete with (and often beat) most other DPS heroes without ult.
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There is a reason why basically all the complaints about him are the same since 2016.
He is just bloated and overpowered.
Doesn’t help that out of 17 heroes he’s the one in most of my games ~70%.
He deserves a demake like Sym V3.
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absolutely no hero deserves what they did to symmetra. I’m still hesitant to agree with what they did to Orisa… however I have also literally heard zero complaints about her remake.
IDK why people always think that complains of him being overloaded have to to do with his passives, really it mostly has to do with his abilities.
Like compare Genji’s two abilities to any other hero.
Dash
- mobility
- damage
- resets
- blinks
deflect
- shields
- sends projectiles back at enemies and damages them
- does not impair his movement or ability to do other actions (obv he has to cancel it but it has zero recovery)
Like, most of the problem imo is just that all of his abilities do like three or four different things so you have to do so much more thinking against him. He ALWAYS has options while most other DPS run into walls where they can’t do anything because their abilities just don’t have the versatility.
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If u know what ur doing every healer can counter genji, pretty easily, i’ve done it
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Guess what happens when you click on his head? “Guess, guess.” He falls over just like the rest of the heroes in the game, and he has plenty of soft counters to keep him in check, like Moira, Winston, and Zarya.
Any boop in the game will render his blade useless, and there are now two immortality abilities on cooldown in the game if the boop isn’t enough to throw off his blade.
These forum warriors complaining about Genji are getting really old. He’s not even as big of a deal as you’re making him out to be. There are many more important nerfs that need to be made to the game right now other than Genji.
like Sojourn, Sombra, Zarya, and Bastion.
Just stop complaining about a character that’s maybe slightly above average at most, and I don’t even play him, so don’t even try and throw that “A Genji simp” nonsense at me.
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If you main Moira like me, you’ll see that he’s not hard at all to deal with on most maps.
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TBH, I don’t even care what his DPS vs DPS balancing is.
If Flankers are the reason Supports aren’t queueing as much. Then that’s a problem.
And it’s pretty wild to me that some people try to act like DPS vs DPS balancing is somehow more important than Queue Times.
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Sure the arguement can be made but when you just have to 1 tap and sticky bomb genji as mcree to kill him its not really that bad tbh.
Like, I get people hate his kit but hes honestly that big of an issue. I have a bigger issue with tracer seeing as mcree has no stun anymore lol
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You die because he pressed deflect at the same time you clicked your mouse button.
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His damage is obnoxious, efortless aim and he able to do almost 90 damage per volley and his attack speed is high at the same time, ammo is high.
Why as cree I have to sweat my a** off to hit this naruta 3 times, who has a tiny as F hitbox, meanwhile I am wide a F, and I do less damage with high precision requirements? Like wth? He can just snipe you snipe you then dash rightclick in general direction and you are dead, aim demand is low at the same time.
Watching necros recently, I can’t find more biased genji player in the world. He literally face roll on his keyboard with almost no aim involved and he gets tons of value of that. And he is already crying about damage nerfs, that are the most needed. His shurikens no shot be doing more that 20 per hit, ngl.
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You don’t have to hit him 3 times. Just 1 tap to the body and sticky, dead.
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Another brain-dead ability, ngl, but I hope they will make it work, because it works 50-50, the same as his highnoon
https://clips.twitch.tv/ThoughtfulPeacefulWaspOpieOP-2Ma3QFNgXSj7DVTG
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Do you think it’s Genji kit itself that makes him overpowered or does the dps passive play a big role? Because Genji does seem to benefit the most from it.
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The passive is just the top of the iceberg. And these filthy gengu mains are trying to use it to not get their broken core nerfed instead.
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If Genji is so good, then why does every player other than one die during Genji ball?
Checkmate.
Really though, personally I have never been great at Genji but always found him super easy to counter with the heroes I do play (Winston, Mei, Junkrat ect.). It just feels so easy to shut him down, even the really good Genji’s have a hard time if you tunnel on them.
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Ehh
I’d much much rather deal with Genji than sojourn, sombra, widow, pharah etc tbh
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Someone’s got to be the second best DPS.
You dont even have to switch heros to deal with Genji. Even every support has a good to moderate change to deal with or at least escape a Genji, even ulting.
Lucio? Boop, sound barrier, speed boost away.
Brig? Shield Bash and flail.
Moira? Primarly fire, skill ball, and fade.
Zen? Spartain kick, discord, ping heads, transcendence.
Bap? Immporality field, regen burst, gogo boots.
Ana? Sleep dart, bio-nade.
Kiriko? Ping heads, immunity, teleport away if needs be.
Mercy? Fly away.
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If the passive stays I agree he needs nerfs. I’m just worried about Genji and Sombra being over nerfed too hard. Because rn flankers are hiding a much more dangerous beast for supports. Snipers like Hanzo/Widow are not broken simply because flankers are very strong. But if flankers are weak then double sniper could become meta. And idk about yall but I’d rather face an annoying Genji/Sombra/Tracer than a cracked hanzo/widow. At least against flankers I have a chance to fight back.
If Genji gets nerfed Widow needs to go back to 175hp and idk what nerfs hanzo will need.
Genji just needs 175HP, swift strike resets from assists taken away, a 1 second reduction on deflect (or secondary fire rate increased to be less spammy and kill potent on supports) and ultimate canceled by CC (or swift strike reset taken away from ultimate trigger). Just tune down his kit to fall back in line with the other heroes
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I mostly play console DPS, and my best anti-gengu hero is Ashe. I don’t know what it is specifically between her air pellet shotgun, boomsticks, and wasting ammo with hipfire but for some reason I feel like I hold up really well against a gengu flank with her. Then of course there is the power of console Torb turret. If I play other DPS against him though I notice it’s a bit harder.