No aim =/= No skill 2.0

i dont think the analogy still does its job when the examples are completly different

I wanna see you play Pharah and then talk about projectile leading. Now that is a hard hero with projectiles.

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I only read ditch digging requires skills and stopped lmao

I want to see you play torb and try to aim his primary fire gun…

its the same as pharah except you cant fly, and you have no aoe, and you do less damage

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Maybe because they require so much of everything else that makes them harder to play than most of the cast .
To play them correctly it’s hard af.

To play Symmetra/Brigitte/Mercy/Moira 1 hr and you can play them decently

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Go to comp, play those characters for a bit and you´ll see it aint that easy as it looks…

especially sym…

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how about this the main no aim hero is the cheapest pain the a$$ ever spamming bombs and slowly sucking out all fun from the game, I wouldn’t say he needs no skill but his skill ceiling is so low its under the basement

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But that is exactly the point, you don’t have to hit your left click. Your turrets will to most of the job. Now compare that to McCree or Widow. If you don’t hit your left clicks you’re useless!

Pharah when it comes to landing rockets is EZ as f*ck if you’ve got a couple of years worth of Quake under your belt.

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You do have to hit your left click! Otherwise your turret gets busted in .1 seconds and your usless too!

its important

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The thing with this is while aim isn’t the only thing that takes skill, it takes much longer to develop than gamesense or a sense of positioning. It’s more difficult to learn to aim because it takes physical skill and muscle memory, therefore people make the argument that a lack of aim means you’re bad.

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I was a moira otp with 0 hour on her before season 8 my sr climbed from 2017 to 2453 .
Then I picked a dps and lose 700 sr .

That’s already prove my point

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I picked up Moira for the first time and did 10k healing I was shocked!!! To get to 10k healing with Ana you need to work your a$$ off.

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Agree. But that still means you need some skill :slight_smile:

His skill floor is high, his skill ceiling is limitless. Although I never see a Junkrat sniping with his grenades, it is possible to snipe without spamming.

OP, this is a great post and I appreciate the effort, but you’re never going to get these people to change their minds. They want an ego stroke about the incredible amount of skill it takes to play their hero, and don’t want anything to get in their way of constant shooting that isn’t a conventional threat like you’d see in another FPS. Not like it really matters if a character isn’t the absolutely pinnacle of ultimate FPS skill anyway. ALWAYS Balance > fun, regardless of skill.
(Ana needs a huge buff tho, that’s absolutely true)

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I don’t want an ego stroke. I just want a fair shot!

No it doesnt…
theres no context in that statement…

In season 8 moira was just released, so peopel didnt know how to fight her well

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not really it learn how to use his trap to catch the tracer and how to use the land mine as both a grenade and escape method while blind firing to get easy kills for you and yours

Because she is broken.

She’s out for 6 months and no one seems to know how to play against her but hey “she’s fine”