With the shield nerfs, snipers will run rampant again and they are gonna cancel out every other dps, its literally a fact stop denying it. You forum warriors need to open your eyes and realize that one shots in such a small charge up time are broken, whether they take skill or not.
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tanks will also be more aggressive this patch, and Orisa near unkillable,
not to mention the armor increase making it easier for tanks to dive and take down the widow
along with a team effort to focus the snipers
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who cares if they are more aggressive if they can’t even do their most important job. “Keep their team alive via shield”.
Who cares if Orisa is near unkillable, when her ENTIRE TEAM IS DEAD because her shield dies in UNDER 3 SECONDS.
Armor increase doesn’t even effect dive unless you’re talking about brigit or monkey. Every other character has no benefit from that, and widow still is barely bothered by that. Let’s not forget hanzo will litterally just melt the diver anyways
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I don’t play Orisa, but 10 seconds at 600 shield makes no sense to me even if they’re lowering shield uptime. Should be 9 seconds at most.
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then why isn’t your team doing the same to the enemy team? 
ball, d.va, and monkey?
along with a brig to stack armor
this was never an issue during dive
when the main tank was monkey and his shield is on a 13 second cd
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right, and I agree
they should make it 8 seconds, but I havent played the ptr patch in a game
maybe because it would make her shield dancing survivability too strong
maybe they’ll lower it once the patch hits live
I love how everyone anti sniper post on the forums thinks every sniper player is carpe. I’m happier to die to a widow or a hanzo than I am to die to a doomfist or reaper, now things will die faster and we won’t be sitting at the choke until the shields are on cooldown
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Also when DVa had a much stronger DM and Mercy had an absolutely busted rendition of Rez
But also, keeping supports alive was an issue. The discontent with that is in part what led us to Brigitte, because support players were tired of playing in a meta where the strategy was “murk the supports really quick.”
I think it’s a legitimate concern with the PTR
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Armor changes still do very little to nothing about a widow’s damage. You’re point?
Yeah “dive exists to pressure widow” good job, you just got a hanzo, or mei, or reaper/mcree or some other stunlock hero to counter. Hanzo is a far more powerful sniper than widow anyways.
During dive noone played shield tanks to begin with.
The main tank was monkey, but DVA had an op AF matrix. DIVE is the ONLY meta where “shields barely matter”, and even then a timed right bubble or matrix was essensial. You ALSO forget that SIGMA, ORISA, and REIN HAVE to have shields up for the team behind them to move in. Why? Because most of those teams DON’T DIVE, which means, they DONT HAVE THE MOBILITY TO GET TO COVER SAFELY AND DISSAPPEAR/GET AWAY.
More aggressive? AWESOME! Now push in with no shield!
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I havent been keeping up with ptr notes. Have they done anything to allow DVA or Winston to get in snipers faces again?
not from what I read aside from armor changes, so they are still SOL
Widow got +2 seconds on her grapple cooldown. That’s it I think.
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that’s also not saying much, but it does matter a little
Well… they make armor back to -5 instead of -3
D.va just got a buff to her DM from 2s to 1.5s.
Winston is still Winston, but Dive comp should as of now should be Winston/D.va or Ball/D.va. Those combo fair really well together as dive tanks.
nah snipers are easy to counter if u are getting farmed by a sniper thats a you thing. grab a corner or something
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Widowmaker got a Grapple nerf. DVa got a slight DM buff. That’s about it.
Hanzo got no changes
It’s kinda hard to contest a sniper or capture an objective from behind a wall. This strategy is good in other games because snipers have limited ammo and you can make them waste it, but Widowmaker and Hanzo don’t have that problem. Also they can see you and when you’re about to peek lol
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I have no problem with snipers other than the fact that the majority of them I cross are smurfs and no I don’t appreciate being spawn camped because the match maker decided to stick me with a bronze tank who decides to play Roadhog only and misses every single hook. But I digress.
hey at least its a change of meta, or tell me do you still want to spam a shield for 10min and then deploy another one and just shoot shields the whole game?, meh snipers arent gonna be that much of a problem really
I honestly don’t mind Hanzo too much, but Widowmaker irritates me because she’s either garbage or insanely oppressive. It’s not frequent that I find Widowmakers in between those extremes. That, to me, says bad character design.
Also it’s easier to bait a Hanzo since he uses projectiles.
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just an example. there are many heroes in this game that make a snipers life hard. ow is the last game you should be complaining about snipers in