New torb is just a better roadhog now

Mmm. I’d say he’s a better Reaper. Hog at least has his hook. As for Reaper: Overload>wraith (perform similar functions, but overload has far more benefits). Turret>shadowstep (Obviously completely different. But if you had to pick one ability over the other…). Molten core>death blossom (area denial + dps. Except one destroys armor and doesn’t put the user in danger). Rivet gun>hellfire shotguns. Not only is the shotgun aspect better, but it has a long range option. Reaper does have life leach, but I believe everything else makes Torb better, as they serve a very similar role.

So I’d say that Reaper needs buffing to his shotgun to bring him up to speed. Keep shadowstep, but buff/tweak it. Given Reaper and Torb fill the same basic role, Reaper should keep his ability to more effectively flank. Then there’s a reason to pick one over the other instead of one of them just over shadowing the other in the same basic brawler role.
Same goes for Hog. Keep his ability to more effectively live at all times, but maybe give his Take a Breather added ability to help teammates around his radius (give them some hp or damage resistance or something?). Obviously his hook gives him different utility from Torb, unlike Reaper

Hog is getting changes before Reaper is

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New Torb is a better Reaper*

Torb’s secondary fire has much less spread than Reaper, with only a slightly slower fire rate (0.6 vs 0.5). When you consider the turret + overload, thats a better fire rate than Reaper and 150 armor and is probably better than wraith form.
Torb also has range, and he can squirt goo at people with molten core.

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Exactly! Poor Reaper

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I just don’t know what they could do to make him better. Maybe they could make his self heal a flat value instead of a % of damage, that way he would be better against lower health targets who are harder to hit. Maybe 15-20 health back per shot? He would be able to self health 30-40 healing per second, which sounds pretty fair.