New tank - another Pharah counter

Do the devs just really, really, hate Pharah (and to a lesser extent, Mercy)?

Honest question. It’s not like flying heroes are tearing up the meta, nor have they ever really.

We now need an ability that literally grounds flying characters. Because that’ll REALLY impact the top performing heroes.

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Yes they do. She’s already the hero with the most counters in the game. A significant portion of the maps are flat out death traps for her. She’s still the only hero with self damage on her ULT and primary. Her splash damage is really low. She has 0 self-sustain. The only way to successfully play her is choke spam or elaborate ambush flanker. Ambush flanking is hard because of how loud she is.

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good, she is still a nightmare to play against and most games come down to IF you have a really good hitscan AND a mercy to pocket him.

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Just aim better and shoot them.

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Pharah is actually in a really in an OP place right now, unless you’re dealing with people of top500 hitscan skill.

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Being able to touch a hero at all does not make you a counter, for the love of God. I swear you guys just want everyone to be helpless against Pharah
A hero that counters half the roster with little to no effort shouldn’t even be viable

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Pharah and Echo are the only characters that require a specific answer in order to not dominate the lobby. It’s only right that tanks should have answers like the other roles do. I don’t think this hard counters her, it just prevents her from farming your team for free.

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Both heroes should get a rework, im glad theres more counters, but the HARD SWITCHING is complete toxicity reinvented

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pharmercy whiners better be quiet now!

We now have THREE autoaim hitscan ults that are free no-aim kills on an airborne pharah/mercy

as well as TWO buttons to remove the ability to fly (and increase damage done to them at same time)

along with yet more and more new heroes who give pharah a really hard time (sojourn, kiriko jar during barrage)

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Heroes that can make her irrelevant in a match:
Ana
D.Va
Sig
Soldier
Sojourn
Bastion (no really, his shift form melts)
Widow
Sombra
Cassidy

PharMercy is so easy to counter that I do it regularly as a lone Pharah.

These are just hard counters.

There are a load of soft counters as well.

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Pharah and Mercy basically guarantee win in bronze-gold matches. That’s like where 60% of the entire playerbase is. The skill required to hit them consistently is far higher than the skill required for pharah to keep floating and shooting those massive aoe rockets anywhere near someone. An easy way to counter them is exactly what we need.

Pharmacy has been a massive issue that’s been whined about everywhere all the time for many years now, and still nothing has been done. I have seen so many matches go from a clear victory to an instant loss the second the opponent switch to that, or an easy afk win when mine did. It should never have been a thing in the first place.

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You seem to have no idea how much of a problem Pharah is for plat and below players. Its a joke that they have not reworked her. No sympathy for Pharah players.

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Massive AoE rockets? The splash dmg is laughable now.

At the same time they still didn’t address Pharmercy.

Here’s a good accurate list :slight_smile:

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I’d argue genji should be on the “can give her trouble” list since he can reflect her barrage or murder combo her out of the sky.

But this is a good breakdown.

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Thank God tank players now have a counter to phara

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Pharah just need to use concussive blast to get out of the Vortex of Ramattra, just 1 click to get out of a circle that looks big like 4-5 meters :thinking:

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It looks like it locks you in place.

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This is /s, right???

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