Just a simple idea that in my opinion might fix the current role queue mess, and most will deny this possibility but the storm is on the horizon that this game will suffer greatly or not even survive until OW2.
For starters. We all know that there are more DPS players in OW and they should have calculated this in with role queue.
My suggestive idea is Limit the tank slot to 1 and give DPS 3 slots, but move all current non shield tanks (Hammond, Dva, Hog, Zarya, Etc) to the DPS category (will require a balance patch), this will open up more room for new meta’s and more focused team builds and it will end barrierwatch for ever.
And its just a suggestion so dont start with “maybe dont play DPS”. I play all roles and my ranks on all roles are the same, but at high rank the queue time for dps is 10+ min but so is healer and this will make the high rank leave and the problem of the queue times will simply snowball downhill the ranks if nothing will change.
So what my problem is now will soon be the problem of Masters then diamonds, plats etc etc.
Playing solo tank is awful, this would force many reworks and even delete hero identities. Some tanks are not strictly main and off tanks, and being a shield tank does not mean main tank. Hammond can act as a great main tank, and as we have seen sigma can work as an off tank. Forcing them into specific roles would ruin their composition flexibility.
Except now all the fun tanks (imo) would be in DPS. I think this would make role queue even longer, cause the # of people who want to play shield tank != half the tank queue.
That would require some pretty drastic changes to most or all of them, likely to the point of harming or killing their identities. Tanks are balanced on a completely different level from Damage characters right now, and Damage characters with 200 HP or less would almost never be seen again without major adjustments (which is already the case, actually, but would get even more extreme).
Tank is already near instant because the lack of tanks, removing one slot from the least played role to one that is most placed would speed up the times, just like if u have a 6 line highway and during one part of the day they would give one direction 4 lanes and the other 2 to prevent traffic jams.
The "off tanks are still in the game, and reworking them wasn’t my suggestion here.
Did you miss the middle? Off tank and main tank are not correct labels. Tanks are not simply one or the other. Hammond and Sigma work as both, Winston can as well, Zarya can be a main tank with the right support, etc. It all depends on how you run your team. This eliminates any tank flexibility within the role
Mm, I think you missed my reasoning. I don’t think DPS queue wouldn’t be any faster. Of course tank would still be instant. The issue is you are moving more people to DPS queue.
So say there are currently in queue 20 tanks, 40 supports and 80 DPS. 60 people get into a game.
With your suggestion it would be more like 8 tanks, 40 supports and 92 DPS. Now only 48 people get a game in the same amount of time.
Okay sorry but in no way would it negatively effect queue times.
The queue times are as they are because there is imbalance, Giving one slot to the DPS and moving off tank to it will make queues faster. but your point i do see,
it will make the current maintank offtank combo a rarity.
Edit: basically tank has 2 lanes now and one of them is not being used, so to speed up traffic u give that lane to the other direction that is having a traffic jam because the 2 DPS lanes are to crowded.
This is terrible idea. They need to just make more tank heros and make them more fun to play. Tanks just feel completely helpless now in 2-2-2. DPS heroes get a bigger roster, more options, more glory, and the ability to impact the game.
More fun tanks does not change anything, it never did because there are nearly no tank players, and they added sigma and this made the queue times even worse.
The game needs to balance and evolve around the actual statistic’s and not around what this community want’s, because this will simply accelerate the issues.
well first of all my opinion on role queue is that it’s fine it doesn’t need any changes let the dps players suffer! but let’s talk about your suggestions eh?
that’s a big change… and big changes usually throw the game out of balance for a couple of patches which is like 3 months irl are you okay with playing 3 months of frustrating metas?
well doesn’t that mean that more people would queue for dps and less people would queue for tank?
if there’s a new meta it doesn’t mean that the game has improved take a look all the metas we’ve had over the years there’s literally just one that the community was actually happy with and that was dive from early 2017
okay… maybe enjoy your suffering?
oh my god you sound like those people who go to church and talk to the priest and they’re like i have this problem and that problem and i wanna add that i do these good things too ok?
like you don’t need to justify your actions here hehe if you like playing dps play dps no one really cares
Simple. GM is unplayable because of the queue times and they leave because of this.
Then masters slowly will get the queue time vacuum left by the GM, and so on. People are leaving from the top.
Mid masters are now having the same problem GM had during Roll queue beta and soon masters will have the problems GM has now and then DIamond will have increased queue times because most people simply wont wait 10 mins for a game and they go play something else.
That’s no argument, and yes everyone wanted rolequeue and its still a good idea but poorly executed.
The implementation of blizzard is simply horrible and because of its lack of design its killing the game. What do you think will happen if blizzard keeps the current system?
Everyone with a brain said that role que will lead to drastic increases in que times. The GM playerbase, the youtubers, the streamers all dismissed this concern. Only Skyline publicly spoke out about it. But your type pushed ahead and now you have a dying game that you killed. Enjoy it. Once the playerbase evaporates we can just enjoy OWL like everyone enjoys SC2. A game people watch but don’t play.
Isnt skyline diamond? this guy is a coach or what ever just in name not in actuality.
Why people where not concerned is because no one thought blizzard to be so stupid and go for 2-2-2, u forget blizzard has the actual statistics of the game but for some reason they do barely use these to make changes.