New patch feels exactly the same

Still Zarya Hog, Still a bunch of hitscan. It’s all the same.

I want barriers back. I don’t care about double shield in high ranks. It was fine for me and the rest of the playerbase. Find a different solution. Sigma’s shield has a regen SLOWER than Brig’s. The health pool is paper thin. It all feels terrible.

Orisa’s shield just dies and Rein can’t pressure enough with his up.

I hope there’s another ExC soon with more nerfs or barrier buffs.

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If a guy in a suit of armor marching relentlessly towards you with a team full of people spitting fire from behind a gigantic 1600HP shield isn’t pressure, I’m not sure what is.

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Personally I think the problem is Sigma, we never had these issues with double shield before he got added. So he should be reworked.

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A problem people fail to realize many times is that when people actually pick a synergistic team you can often deal with other threats even if its ‘meta’.

Sigma/Rein is pretty good against Zarya/Hog. Esp when your Ana gets free sleep darts and bionades all day long while theirs gets nothing.

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Metas dont form right after a patch drops. This patch has done a decent amount at helping the survivability of tanks by reducing spam, hitscan and beam damage. Barrier buffs aren’t really needed.

Besides, what would be the point in reducing the damage output of a large amount of the cast whilst also buffing barriers? We’d be back at square one again.

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I would reply to this but someone says it better than me already, look at unkoe’s Twitter (because I can’t post links

you referring to this? (language)

Agree. The low shield hp with super slow regen together with the 1s CD and the Grasp nerf on top of that coupled with the Hog buff was too much. They and Orisa were fine on my ranks before these changes. Sigma is still playable but it’s frustrating with such a weak shield. He only needs a small buff though, be it to shield regen or hp, or Grasp, or something. And Hog needs a nerf. And Orisa needs more hp/armour.

They should have different balance changes for OWL and for the rest of us if hero pools arent enough up there. Or they can have hero bans.

No, he should not. Finally a shield tank that is fun to play is added and people scream for reworks. I trust Blizz can find other solutions.

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It’s more I’m sick of seeing Roadhog Zarya in every single game, even though I’m playing gold-diamond players. The meta from GM shouldn’t be so easy to play it filters down that far. And even on Sigma I can’t block enough because my shield is paper thin.

I don’t know I’m just not enjoying it an nerfing dps doesn’t change much for me because I am not willing to wait 10 minutes for a game. I’m losing my patience with the game because I can’t simply play what I enjoy without waiting 5-10 minutes. Or I can play Sigma who gets hard countered by roadhog zarya who isee every game

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Yes, he ABSOLUTELY should. Why was double shield never meta ONCE before he came along? Because Rein, Orisa, and Winson do not synergize with each other. You’re wasting utility and resource by combining them together, Sigma changed that entirely. Fix his synergy with other shields and you’ll fix double shield for good.

Things like the shield expanding as it travels, so Sigma would have to be farther away from Orisa to get the shield to be at the size it is now, making him an easy dive target. And or having the shield block damage after it’s placed, so going for Sigma while he changes the barrier’s position works as a strong counter play.

To deny he caused these problems is insane.

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Yes, this is what I meant

It’s just too easy to deal with that giant shield.

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The patch just had a bunch of micro nerfs, of course it feels the same. Nothing changed basically

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On console Mid-Plat, this is what everyone plays, Hog/Zarya, Ashe/Junkrat/Widow, Ana/Moira/Mercy. You will have 10 games straight of this comp. It is getting ridiculous that 8-10 Heroes are the only heroes ever played. Where the heck is the variety?

I dont mind these heroes, I am glad a couple of them are getting more play time, but when they are the ONLY heroes played it gets very old and stale. I miss the days of mid Plat being people who play whatever they are feeling, not what IS a must pick to win.

1600 HP and still falls apart like wet tissue paper.

Wow, someone who is used to playing with the same teammates every game, in a pool of 200 people, doesn’t understand that Ladder is totally different because you’re expected to play with 5-4 totally random people

Amazing :o

This is why balance with focus on OWL fails by the way

His Shield is easy to break even if you are not playing a “shield breaking” hero and then you just burn him down. An obese man is better at taking damage than someone wearing actual armor in this game

Everything in this this game is easy to deal with in a vacuum. Just the pure virtue having an ability doesn’t, and shouldn’t make a hero effective. You still need a brain and teamwork.

Agreed.

Pre-Sigma,Double Barrier could’ve been a thing with Orisa and Rein,but it wasn’t.

People complain about D.Va being bad and I’m looking at Sigma with his overloaded kit and thinking gee I wonder why.

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I mean, they pretty much removed Sigma, and D.va is still trash

It’s almost like nerfing both her mobility AND her survivability wasn’t smart