New EULA? What changed?

Sorry if this is old news and has already been talked about, but I just opened BNet for the first time in over a week, and was greeted with a message asking me to “Review Terms”, forcing me to accept them if I want to log in.

Looking at the top of the EULA page, it says that it was revised on May 31 2023. Im not really asking why the EULA was “revised”, I think I can make a pretty good guess there, but does anyone know what was changed from before?

Probably just giving blizzard more authority to ban people on a whim for the slightest grievance. You know how “progressive” corporations are.

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People posting about it not long ago. Something about by accepting you can’t sue us or some such.

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…What?

Im no legal expert, but Im not sure they can have you can sign rights like those away so easily and have it hold up in court.

Besides, according to some of the posters here, they “didnt do anything wrong” so why would they be worried about legal action such as lawsuits? Im not so sure they’d have bothered if they hadn’t had someone suggest “Hey, you should probably revise your EULA to tell people they cant sue you or participate in class action lawsuits”.

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Is this just an NA thing? I haven’t gotten anything like that recently to accept.

I am in NA, yes. I would’ve thought everyone would have to be notified and click “continue” to “sign” it, but maybe thats not required in some regions?

Haven’t gotten anything yet. I’m EU. :eyes:

They really can’t. But what they can do is have language that someone who DOESN’T understand how that works would read and be discouraged or intimidated from following up on.

from what people were saying there was some specific revision around the “you cannot participate in a class action suit” sections… but damn if I know what they changed exactly.

I read the Agreement previous and the new one is likely an amendment that covers all bases Foreign and Domestic. They can amend the agreement how they see fit.

So if you click “I agree” then your only right is to uninstall.

Oh, it’s in the first paragraph:

Guess you cannot take it to court now.

You still can. EULA’s are not the final word in litigation. However individually anyone taking blizzard to court is going to get buried.

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Well, if the laws of Delaware, USA or Orange County, California permit it…

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I didnt agree to the new EULA on any of my accounts just yet, although it wont let me in until I do. So since I cant uninstall via the launcher, I guess I’ll just wait and see what happens, for now.

You should look up arbitration. The win rate on those is ridiculously bad.

For instance if a EULA says “by clicking OK you agree to forego all claim to any material or monetary gains acquired while this account is active” , it wouldn’t mean anything in court because of reasonable expectations and actual laws.

This is what you go to court for. To challenge the claims of the company. But… as I said blizzard would likely bury you in court fees and out-lawyer you.

I’m just making sure it’s said that EULAs aren’t laws or legally binding directly.

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Now more so than ever before since you signed a class action waiver and, by clicking “I agree,” have consented for your claim to be settled by Arbitration.

Hope you can afford it.

I dunno if I’m getting through to you here. The EULA is frippery. Basic protections and so they can say “we said so”. It doesn’t mean much legally if the claims are not lawful.

Under who’s Laws? Federal? State? County?

Maybe Foreign (outside US) but if any of this is “frippery” then that itself is a crime as I believe that’s grounds for fraudulence.

By all means, prove me wrong or make a claim.

I would guess federal since it’s a nationally published game. Maybe you’d even take it to the FTC.

Well if they directly claimed something that could immediately be cited to be against laws then yes, but even then someone would have to call them on it. EULAs usually are looked at by corporate lawyers to make sure they aren’t doing this (I have relatives with that job) but if it’s a grey area (and Holy HELL is a lot of law grey) then it just gets left in till it NEEDS to be corrected or a court decision rules against it.

not looking for this. I’m looking to open peoples eyes to the fact the EULA is not holy writ. It can be challenged and it can be ruled against. A lot of people on the forum like to cite it like it’s the end word, but it’s not.

Taking away the rights to sue them for false advertising

Which is an illegal move in an own of itself.

People are overreacting. They could always ban you for what ever reason they thought of. You play their game, on their servers, with an account from their website. People could not sue them for “false advertising”, when they did not give people a way to buy into PvE. The only thing they did was canceling something that was promised years ago. They broke their promise… wow. If that is enough for some people to start suing blizz then I understand why they update their TOS xD

Only if they had sold you the product. They did not. There was no way to buy PvE and therefore, no grounds for that.