Especially considering many of the top tier dps and supports aren’t even mobility creep candidates.
Kiriko and Lucio are the only good mobility supports.
LW and Mercy share the bottom 2 support slots and Moira is as mid as can be.
Not to mention non-mobile supports are seeing way more play at the moment anyway.
Same for the DPS.
With the exception of Tracer and maybe Echo all other mobility DPS aren’t gonna survive a -25hp nerf.
Meanwhile apart from Tracer the top 2 and 3 of the DPS cast sit at 275 and 250 hp with long ranged hitscan burst damage.
PLEASE balance characters INDIVIDUALLY!
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If they really want to finetune heroes indivdually, then there wouldn’t be the systemic change mess in season 9 and the later armor changes.
Their current approach is bascially to throw something on the wall and see what sticks. They do some dramatic and systemic changes and see how things go. If impact of changes are not extremely bad for the indivdual hero, they’ll just leave as it is.
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tbf it makes it a bit less painful to the nerfed heroes in question when a bunch of their competition gets nerfed along side em. im not super against this.
that said, moira uses every last point of hp so this will be a faaaaaaaaaat nerf on her. so i hope they stabilize things quickly
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Can we stop panicking? They have not said ALL mobility heroes and rather SOME. This implies that they will only nerf the candidates that are currently played extremely often and always have a good performance.
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Making them squishy would be good, give the glass cannon more glass.
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I agree with the OP totally. This already sounds like another of Alec’s fails and change for the sake of changing things.
But we also don’t know who exactly will be nerfed. We don’t know will Moira be part of these changes, if she is, yeah, they totally lost it for sure. Because Moira will absolutely be killed if she goes from 250 to 225 health. She has a survivability, but she is not highly mobile, she has no burst damage, she has no utility…
Heroes definitely need individual balance changes, and these health nerfs are NOT the way, this will be a big fail for sure. So many breakpoints are changing for 225 health compared to 250 health. What was the point of S9 changes??
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It’s like the lazy balancing they do for tanks in arcade modes. Oh just take 125 HP away. Well that’s much worse for some tanks than for others. It’ll be the same here.
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tbh its more logical to have mobile heroes having less hp than a hero with 0 mobility
always have been this way in gaming
Not when non mobile heroes already do have extra hp and sustain.
They are not humble enough to revert s9 properly and will do it haphazardly in bits and pieces.
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People are speculating about who these “mobile” heroes are.
The term has no clear definition. You can consider both Doomfist and LW to be mobile, even though one is much more mobile than the other.
So let’s wait and see exactly which heroes will be nerfed.
I personally assumed they meant the flankers in the dev blog
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LW being bottom tier and the most annoying support to face is honestly a sign that he needs to be removed from the game or severely reworked. He is annoying because of life grip. That’s all. I don’t like facing an enemy tank who is allowed to play like a feeder because lw has a get out of jail free card at all times. It’s 10x worse than suzu or lamp. No ability should enable someone to go in 1v5.
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Crazy how they’ll nerf all the fun mobility heroes that people actually want to play but god forbid Widow get a proper nerf for once.
I hope you’re ready for Hitscanwatch.
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Global changes to every x have been the worst balance decisions they’ve ever made. WHY ARE THEY DOING IT AGAIN?
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yuuup he needs a total rework
i can’t stand him being my co-support either
heheh i can’t wait for 225 hp genji
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It’s not feeding when it’s planned dude. Me telling the tank to go in cuz I have grip is an example of how exactly OW 2 needs to function instead of the tank actually just having the ability to go in 1v5 without a plan and make it out alive
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And give weak characters chance to get to the top? Not happening.
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i dunno i kind of like that dynamic, if i could get a tank to play extra aggro while trusting that id save them w/ grip then maybe id play lifeweaver too.
It has always been hitscanwatch.
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True. But now it’s Hitscanwatch 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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